S2, E7: Spooky Music Vol. I

It's a music extravaganza with The Ghoul Mates and special guests Nihilist Abyss and Nino Lucarelli!

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Ghoulster 0:01

Welcome foolish Ghoulsters to the podcast that keeps the spirit of Halloween alive all year through pop culture and nostalgia and now it's love at first fright with The Ghoul Mates.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:17

Hi guys, welcome back to The Ghoul Mates. I'm your Ghost Hostess Mandy.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:21

And I'm your Master of Scaremonies, Rudy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:24

We are so excited to finally have a music episode. We've seen a few of you are super excited about the new Netflix movie, Hubie Halloween and ghoul oh goal Do we have a treat for you. Today we are going to be joined by the artist who is featured on the Hubie Halloween trailer. And then we'll be talking about our experiences with music, and we will end with an interview with my new favorite spooky artists Nihilist Abyss. So let's get this party started with

Ghoulster 0:56

Horror Trivia.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:57

All right, spook fans. Here we go. What 2000 Netflix film involves a boy who accidentally witnesses a cult ritual in his house and has to survive the night.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09

Oh my god, The Babysitter.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:12

That is correct.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:15

I believe I like knew as soon as you were saying it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18

other one was The Blair Witch Project that was gonna give you that one. But I wanted you to have a god win.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:23

You're mean, Okay. Let's see. Oh, interesting. Okay. Oh, man, what 2012 slasher film is a story about an annual ritual sacrifice to appease the ancient ones.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:42

The Babysitter? Wait, no, wait. Where does it take place?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:50

Doesn't say.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:52

I have no idea.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:53

Annual ritual sacrifice to appease the ancient ones.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:59

Is it um Halloween three Season Season of the Witch?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:03

In 2012?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:05

I'm sorry. 2012. I have no idea.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:07

Dang. I would have known this one. I got you, boo.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:10

What is it?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:11

It's Cabin in the Woods.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:12

Yeah, that's a good movie. I like that movie. We should watch that one.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:15

Yeah, I do. I like that movie a lot, too. All right. So

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:19

I'm stumped for the first. This is the first time I've been stumped in a long time.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:23

Yep. All right. I will keep today's

Ghoulster 2:27

Haunted Housekeeping

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:28

short. We just want to give a major thank you to all of our Instagram followers who have shown so much love to our photos over the past couple of weeks. It means so much to get our work out there and seen. Especially when it's a photo that I see Rudy put all of his heart into so you guys who stepped up and gave us that push. Thank you so much. And one other important note, we've been teasing this for so long. And it's finally happening. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel because Tales from the Tent is premiering on Tuesday, October 13 at 7pm. Mountain Standard Time. You don't want to miss this guys. We've been working so hard on it. Our Familiar did an amazing job producing this and well what can I say? I'm so excited to unleash Rudy's real passion for video with you guys. Okay, um, anyway, on that, no, sorry, I just got a little emotional because we've been working on it for so long, and it's here. Please support us.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:35

I know. Yeah, you and Oscar have done an amazing job just like getting the things I need to put it all together. So it's, it's been incredible.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:43

It's it's very exciting. We haven't worked together on something like this before, like a narrative.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:49

Oh, yeah, we haven't done anything, yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:50

Full production thing. So

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:52

yeah, and, and like, look real quick. I know that we wanted to do like, that 48 hour thing this summer, and we couldn't because of the virus. So I'm just really happy and excited about doing this narrative piece with you guys.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:06

So on Tuesday, we're gonna be having a premiere on YouTube. So for those of you who don't know, that means that if you go to our channel at that set premiere time, you will see the video play as a live premiere, you won't be able to like skip the timestamp, nothing. It's going to be live. So be sure you're tuning in right at seven. And there will be a chat party to the right of it on the window. So I don't know that it works on like TVs. So you have to do it from an actual computer.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:35

Yeah, you have to either do it from a computer or I think you can do it on the phone too.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:41

Oh, yeah. Cuz you did do it on the phone for episode. So if you do that, like I said at seven, there's a little chat party you can actually talk to whoever's watching the premiere at that time, and we will be on there talking with whoever wants to join us and see our first Tales from the Tent episode.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:57

Yes, please be gentle with the comments. I have a sensitive heart.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:03

I know we're all like, we're very excited. But we're also very nervous because like, what, what is everyone gonna say about it? So we do want to warn you guys though, we're not trying to set high expectations, but I also don't want anyone to go in there expecting everything you've seen from us. That's like spooky and cute and high energetic. It's very different. And so for those of you who have mentioned to me that Fables From Our Familiar is a little spooky for you. Please be warned that Tales from the Tent is going to be a little scarier and definitely more visually scary.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:39


Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:39

So just be warned, go in there carefully. But if you guys are really wanting to get a little spooked, turn off your lights, get in a dark room and get ready for a mood.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:51


Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:52

Okay, so let's get this show on the road. So if you all have seen the Hubie Halloween trailer, I'm sure you have heard this awesome rendition of the People Are Strange covered by The Doors. It turns out our friend Nino Lucarelli, was actually one of the artists on that song that is featured on the trailer. We were so excited to find out that he got this fantastic opportunity. So we thought we'd have a quick chat with him so you can hear a bit more about his music.

Ghoulster 6:19

And now let's give a Ghoulster welcome to Nino.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:25

Hey, Nino, thanks for joining us today.

Nino Lucarelli 6:28

Hey guys, how are you?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:30

Pretty good.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:31

We are good in spooky season mode.

Nino Lucarelli 6:34

Yes, the best time of the year!

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:36

It is. Okay. So do you want to kind of tell our ghoulsters a little bit about yourself and what kind of music you create?

Nino Lucarelli 6:44

Sure, sure. I'm super happy to be here. My name is Nino lucarelli. I'm a singer, songwriter, music producer and an artist. I collaborate with a lot of different artists out there. Mostly electronic artists, electronic DJs, and producers. Some of the people I worked with that are more widely known are KAAZE, Dub Vision, Raiden, baraque, eater, and many, many other people around the world. I get I get the pleasure of singing and writing songs and working with them on their music. And I also, I also make my own music as well. I do a lot of pop and rock and fun stuff like that.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:25

Awesome. That is all of this is just so exciting to hear everything come full circle. We were super excited to hear about your song being featured on the Hubie Halloween trailer. And I especially think this is a treat to share with everyone because it's crazy to see how our podcast comes full circle sometimes. So for those of you listening who have been following along since the very first episode, this here is our friend Nino that we mentioned when we talked about the Halloween Party that we wore our Frankenstein and The Bride costume to so it's so cool to have you on the show.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:56

Yes thats right.

Nino Lucarelli 7:57

Yeah, but thanks for coming to the party. By the way, that was what we're planning on doing another one as soon as it makes sense. Which who knows when that'll be right?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 8:05

Exactly. Yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:06

Well, we look forward to it. So that being said, we know you're a huge Halloween fan. So what would you say your top three songs to get into the Halloween mood are?

Nino Lucarelli 8:16

Yes, absolutely. My top three October songs. Number one, of course, the Monster Mash. It has to be you cannot have a Halloween party without the Monster Mash.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:27

For sure.

Nino Lucarelli 8:29

Number two, got to throw it back to my younger years House of Wolves by My Chemical Romance is a great great Halloween party tune for all the punk rockers and, and crazy costumes. And then more recently, actually, I have another song that I worked on with KAAZE, which is the guy that I worked with for the Hubie Halloween song. We have a song called The Evil Folk. And it is a rendition of an old 1800s melody chant that everyone's heard of. And it's one of those things where when you hear it, you're like, oh, that song. We have a version of that. That's super halloweeny and super, super party appropriate and danceable. And I've really really enjoyed putting that on. When we're doing fun Halloween stuff.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:19

Yeah, we heard it and I really liked it too, because I was going through your music and I that one stuck out to me too.

Nino Lucarelli 9:25

Thank you. Yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:26

So do you kind of want to tell us about the process of getting your song featured on the Hubie Halloween trailer like did you know it was gonna get used?

Nino Lucarelli 9:34

Sure. So the craziest thing is I found out it was gonna be in the movie. 24 hours beforehand, I woke up to an email. It was kind of like hey, we've been working on this for a long time but it's final and you'll see it in the trailer tomorrow. It's the song of course is the cover of The Doors song People Are Strange. And it's with two artists. KAAZE which is my friend Mick Kastenholt from Sweden. He's better known as the big electronic producer KAAZE. And also another artist who goes by the name of Maddix. To really awesome dudes. We did the festival version of People Are Strange. And that version caught the ears of I guess someone on the team at Hubie Halloween and, and here we are. And it was just a it's been crazy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:23

That's awesome. So I don't think we even went into this. But do you want to share what your role in that song was? Like? Are you singing on it? Did you produce it?

Nino Lucarelli 10:31

Um, yeah, I'm singing on the song. I did do some guitar parts as well. So kind of just did the the rock and roll approach, you know, the screaming vocals and the crazy guitar riffs? Some electronic music.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:45

Very cool.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:46

I wanted to know why People Are Strange. Why that song?

Nino Lucarelli 10:52

Ah, well, you know, I think KAAZE when, when he picks when he picks his his his covers that he wants to work on. He likes to pick his songs that mean a lot to them and People Are Strange, I think is perfectly set up in the the speed of the song and, and the way that the story is told in it, it's perfectly set up to get transposed into an electronic version. Something that could play at a festival or, you know, could work behind a DJ booth. And for me, the reason why I'm glad he took People Are Strange is because it happens to sit in a really great area for my voice where I can sing the low part and the beginning, the breathy low part that Jim does. But then in the the second time it comes around, I can like do it the octave higher and like bring the energy punch it needs, which is again, great for you know, a festival scenario when you have a song that continually grows. That's what you want, you know, you want to have something people can continually get energetic about.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:58

That's awesome.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:59


Nino Lucarelli 11:59


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:00

Tell us a little bit more about the music projects you're working on right now. And what can we expect from you from the future?

Nino Lucarelli 12:07

Sure. So right now, I'm always working on music, I'm always writing and singing on songs. I usually have at least a release every month with a different awesome artists. And I'm also working on some really, really, really awesome big stuff. For myself and my own music. I'm working on a new alias, that I'm going to start going as Neen N-E-E-N. And I already have one song out through that that's that's got a lot of the same great stuff as the People Are Strange cover the same vibes. So that is something that I'm really excited to share with people that more of my own music is coming. And that is you can find out about that just by you know, any you could search @NinoLucarelli on Instagram, or Spotify, any of the services, you search my name and it'll come up. But I'm really excited to see what people think of my own music now that I can do that, you know.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:02


Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:03

That's exciting. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. Again, guys. Please check out his music on Spotify. Is there any other platforms that you mentioned? Sorry?

Nino Lucarelli 13:13

Yeah, I'm on everything. Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, Tidal, all the services.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:19

Yeah, for sure. And we will be including a link in our show notes so you guys can check out his music.

Nino Lucarelli 13:25

Thanks so much, guys. I really appreciate it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:33

Alright, guys, if you're interested in hearing more of our thoughts on the actual movie, Hubie Halloween, we actually released a bonus episode on our Patreon about it, where we also talked about Happy Halloween, Scooby Doo. So the episode is called Scooby Hubie Doo.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:50

I came up with that. So people know.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:53

Yeah, he kind of did. You help me get there.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:56

Yeah, cuz I did say Scooby Hubie. And you're like,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:59


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:00

Doo. I was like perfect.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:03

So if you're interested in hearing that it's a little different from what we do on here. It's off the cuff. Very just what were our thoughts? Let's jump on and talk to everyone about it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:13

It's Rudy style.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:14

It is Rudy style.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:16

And off the beaten path.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:17

Yeah. So you can learn more at Patreon.com/TheGhoulMates if you want to check that out. But today we're here to talk about music. So our music preferences are all over the place to say the least I'm sure you guys have noticed it. If you've been listening to the podcast for the past season and a half now holy crap. We're halfway through the season. So a few people have been asking us for a music episode and music recommendations. And so we thought okay, let's just make this a super random music party and bring on two indie artists and then talk about some of our mainstream influences, too. So before we get into that, let's kind of establish our experience with music. So, kick it, Rudy.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:02

I'm gonna kick it Mandy. Yeah, I would say like Halloween. Music has always been a part of my life a big part of my life.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:12


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:13

Specifically because of my dad again. Because he's so cool. And my mom too. I kind of learned about Mexican music through my mom. And I also learned about like, old school 50s 60s and 70s music from my dad, like American music,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:33


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:34

American rock and roll all these different things. My dad had like, tons of vinyl records, little 45's, the bigger records and then my mom had tapes from like Luis Miguel to Selena. So we were constantly always listening to music in my parents house,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:50


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:51

Fast forward a couple of years. And still stuck with me from like, I remember in high school. I had like this big. It was the thing that everybody had was like a, like a Sony disc, man.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:05

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:06

or CDs. So everybody had one of those before even iPads and are not iPads, but iPods and iPhones and stuff like that.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:12


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:12

You had that in your big JNCO Jeans. Tucked away listening to it. Even like, people had tape cassettes. I had a bunch of tapes, too. And, you know, I had like a big like, sleeve, I guess on a sleeve is kind of like a booklet.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:28


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:29

And it had like, all these CDs and stuff. And I had that, like I used to skate in high school. Not very well. But I had like a really big skateboarding backpack. And I had like, all those things in there. So I always have like, some CD, like to be like the soundtrack of my life, you know, right. But, you know, I also played an instrument in middle school, Mandy laughs at me. Because she's like, She's like, I know, you didn't play an instrument. I'm like, excuse me. I played the full size Viola in middle school. She laughed at me, which like she's doing right now. But I'm not like a musician or anything. I think my parents got me a guitar at some point. And I never learned how to use it. I still have it. Because, you know, it's cool.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:16

I just want to say that I'm not laughing at the fact that you played viola, I'm laughing because of the face

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:21

Becuase i was shocked?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:22

when you told me because

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:24

Because i looked offended?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:25

I Well, it's cuz we were like driving in the car. And I was like, telling him the show notes for today. And I'm like, I know you haven't played but like, I know you love music. And you talk about like your experience. And he's like, I played an instrument. But it just like, I don't know how to explain it, because I obviously didn't know him as a child. But like his reaction when he did it, like I pictured him as a little kid telling me like, I played the viola.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:54

This is what I have to deal with every day. I live in my own shame in my own house. Other than that, I also remembered my dad, he listened to a lot of radio. And he was listening to a lot of public access radio when I was young. And he's like, Hey, I'm the local, you know, what's called NPR station. They play like, different music that I think you'd like and then ended up being like these, it was like one or the other. It was like an early electronic or EDM segment, or they have like electronic music, or punk rock, and ska. And I was like, Whoa, that's crazy. So I kind of got my love from that too. And I was like, record, like these long tapes of just like the whole show. never listen to that music all the time. But, you know, Music has always been there. It's always been part of my life and kind of influences, you know, every piece of art that I do,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 18:58


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 18:59

You know, from like taking photos, or doing videos and stuff. You know, it's always been there professionally at some point. You know, when I got older, and I was doing video, one of the things I love to do was to go shoot music festivals.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:16

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:16

So like my world, expanded even more when you'd have all these acts come in and stuff. And then being on stage with the bands, and seeing the energy that they bring and capturing that you kind of like feel a part of, you know, that band and feeling their energy. So, you know, I love music and influences everything that I do every day. And being able to, like, take part in somebody's performance and like capture it is just amazing.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:44

It's interesting. I wasn't even planning this, but you kind of made me realize that when we go to music shows, um, you always bring that up about how like, there's no better feeling than like being on the stage of that happening. And I'm like, I know becuase i feel that when I sing and so I'll kind of get into that more. So I need to backtrack. But is there anything else you wanted to add into it?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:09

Um, for the most part, that's like, my overview. I mean, I've had, I have a lot of like, stories about me being on stage with different bands. If somebody if you guys want to ever want to hear about that, let me know, let us know. And I can have a small discussion about like, my stories is a bunch of crazy ones. But yeah, I mean, music is very important in my life.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:31

Yeah, for sure.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:32

I remember when I saw you sing for the first time.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:35

Oh, I forgot about that part.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:37

It was very important for me to see you. Because you ended my karaoke career, because I was like, I'm never gonna do karaoke again. Because it was so good.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:45

It's funny because like, I kept telling you, I sing, I sing and you were like, okay, whatever. Yeah. Like Halloween, you're like, sure you like Halloween? Okay.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:57

Oh, yeah, I'll never forget that day. They fell in love with you a second time.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:01


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:02

But why don't you talk to us about your love affair with music? What does it mean to you?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:07

Um, so me too. It starts like, since I was a kid, I think. So my dad and my brother actually had a band when I was growing up. And so I was always around music all the time. Like they were always practicing in the garage, or they'd have gigs and we'd go see them. And that kind of just, like, founded my love for music. And I always wanted to be a part of that, I guess.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:32


Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:33

So I started singing and of course, I developed a huge love for Selena. Selena Quintanilla Perez, not Selena Gomez. And I was actually so obsessed with Selena that when the movie came out, then the VHS came out. I watched it so many times that it literally broke and they had to buy me the DVD. And I memorized the entire movie. Like I can actually act it out for you from the beginning to the end.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:00

That's true. It's very, very true.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:02

Another thing you didn't believe till you saw.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:04

I was very shocked when you were getting all the lines. I'm like, What am I? What's going on here?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:09

Yeah. And so I think Selena was a huge influence on me. I've kind of always gone through phases in my life, which you also experience where I obsess over a specific artist.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:24

Yeah, true.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:24

Like constantly, like I start to listen to every single song, watch every performance listened to every single lyric. Like I just become so entranced with it. And Selena was the first person for that. But another little side note was I, I've kind of talked about it before, but I grew up like really close to my brother. And my brother has, well, he was he is a guitarist, and a singer. And so I grew up with a lot of his musical influence, too, which was a lot of like Eric Clapton, Joe Satriani. He actually showed me No Doubt. And so I think, all over the places where Rudy and I disagree are like my personal influences. But where we meet in the middle is the things that my brother showed me.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:10

Right. Because we're like, he's like, he's older than me, right? By

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:15

He's a little older than you.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:17

A couple of years. So I can see that we had like, a lot of the same influences growing up. So we, we pretty much listen to a lot of the same things.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:26

Yes. And so that's kind of where we mostly agree, I think is where those influences from my brother came. But another thing I wanted to note, too, was being around like, the live music at such such a young age was kind of like what made me fall in love with the idea of singing. And so I'm gonna say, I know Rudy's building me up here. I'm not a professional singer. I sing for fun as a hobby.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:52

No, when I sing karaoke, it was fun for a hobby. And that's why I retired because you blew me out of the water.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:59

No, but what I'm saying is like, I wouldn't officially say like, I am a professional singer, I will, I will say like, I am a professional in marketing and I know strategy,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 24:12


Ghost Hostess Mandy 24:12

But I can't say I'm like, musically trained, or anything.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 24:17

Um, you were trained by your family, because they're musicians and they, you know, pushed you and work and work with you to like, develop that voice.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 24:27

I guess that's true.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 24:28

So you're you're you're a semi professional.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 24:31

semi professional, retired, I guess because I don't even get to practice anymore.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 24:36

But you do get paid in compliments for me.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 24:43

Um, so yeah, I just like I said, I've gone through phases where I become obsessed with certain artists for different reasons. But I will say that I think the number one important thing for me with music is lyrics. Like if it doesn't have like, Actual singing in it, I can't really find an interest in it. And if it does have singing, I have to be able to understand the words the singers saying. And they have to resonate with me.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 25:10


Ghost Hostess Mandy 25:10

So that's my big thing. So obviously, we have like, a huge range of music we're crazy about. But we sat down and we thought, where does all of this connect when it comes to spooky music? And we thought, let's give the Ghoulsters something special. And finally, create a playlist because it's been on my list to do this for a while. And so it was so hard because the music is all over the place. You guys hear it? I mean, we go from like, what Evanescence to what have you mentioned? I don't think you mentioned music too much.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 25:46

I havent mentioned a lot. Um, um, Green Day, Kustice, Smashing Pumpkins, just everything.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 25:54

Yeah, there's like a huge variety. And that's just like your stuff, and then you throw mine in.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 25:59

Yeah, I do listen to a lot of stuff.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 26:02

We both do. So that's what made it so hard, because the music's all over the place. And of course, there were just some songs that like, didn't make sense. So we plan to make another playlist later. But it turns out, some of them actually blend it together really well. So surprise, you can check out The Ghoul Mates Volume One playlist on Spotify. So the link is in the show notes. And I think we just kind of wanted to talk about the music that went into the playlist and why we chose it. So you'll notice music from both Nino and Nihilist Abyss are on there. But there's also a weird combination of everything from The Killers to Katy Perry, to Evanescence, to Smashing Pumpkins. So for me, I always want a playlist to, like, play out like a story, right? Earlier, you mentioned that you used to do CDs. Yeah. And they were like a soundtrack to your life at that time. Correct. And so that's kind of how I treat playlist. Like, it's funny because I didn't get too much into it. But, um, I did grow up in the iPod generation. So like, when I was in high school, I begged my mom for an iPod. And for me playlists, I did get go through the phase of like, creating CDs and stuff.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 27:13


Ghost Hostess Mandy 27:13

But But as I've gotten older, Spotify has, like, always been there for me to create playlists at phases in my life. And one of those playlists is actually from when I met you,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 27:24


Ghost Hostess Mandy 27:24

And a lot of songs are usually pulled from there when I think of spooky names. So I wanted to put together like a playlist that had this mood, right, of course, because we want it to be spooky. But you'll notice it starts like really energetic with some like almost classical vibes. And then you go on a ride from Super energetic to mellow and lovey, energetic again. And so I think it's a whole vibe. I hope that you guys enjoy. So let's dig in. You want to talk about some of your choices?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 27:58

Yeah, when you're talking about spooky stuff. I wanted to kind of include some stuff that people have heard of.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:09


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:09

So they're not confused on like what they're listening to. Because my idea of spookiness is different from a lot of people's.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:17


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:18

One of the songs I did choose was Tonight Tonight from The Smashing Pumpkins, mostly because of the music video because the song is not spooky itself, but the music video is kind of spooky.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:29

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:30

Like the characters in the music video. Has this 1920s feel to it? It it draws a lot of inspiration from Georges Méliès A Trip to the Moon.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:44


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:44

It's one of the first movies actually ever made. I think it's like the second or first one but it was a science fiction film or like these characters go to the moon to see and study it and then they come back to Earth but it's very heavily influenced on that and the characters in Tonight Tonight they have like this ghostly like feel to it and I and I thought that was like really spooky and and always like stuck to me that music video is like really cool. Another band that I think that I think is super spooky is Nine Inch Nails. Yeah, specifically Trent Reznor. He's very, you know, Edgar Allan Poe-ish slash Vincent Price-ish, mad scientist. And like, all the stuff they do is always been experimental. I could say they're like one of the few bands that didn't I guess, quote unquote, sellout.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 29:39

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 29:40

And, you know, one of the songs that are that's in the playlist is The Perfect Drug and it was a single I don't think it was part of any album. And I really love that music video too, because if you watch it, it has that like Edgar Allan Poe feel to it. But it's very, you know, very dramatic. very spooky. Like most of their work, you know, it's very like, odd in and kind of intense and you know, unsettling but it's just like very beautiful at the same time. Yeah. So I just really think that you know, along with like Rob Zombie and you know, Marilyn Manson I think Nine Inch Nails is kind of like that perfect. ghastly, like ghost feeling you get I don't know, it's just hard to explain. It's just always been there. That's kind of I don't know, it kind of like touches your soul in a way.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 30:37


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 30:38

It's just like really good stuff. Like I love Trent Reznor stuff. It's always it's always been good, especially stuff that he's done with like, um, Atticus Ross. And he's done a lot of stuff for movies, a lot of soundtracks. So yeah, Nine Inch Nails for sure.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 30:52

Yeah, I actually hadn't seen either of the two videos until you showed them to me while we were like putting all of this stuff together. And I have to say that I think the video for Nine Inch Nails actually looks like the real version of what What We Do in the Shadows is doing ironically.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:11

Yeah, exactly.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:12

It was it was interesting. And it's cool, because I personally hadn't really seen something like that before. So

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:18


Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:19

Check out the video guys.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:20

Yeah, I love that video.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:22

Um, did you have anything else you wanted to add?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:25

I mean, what else we have we I mean, another song that I really enjoyed was Seven Devils from

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:36

Florence and the Machine.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:37

Florence and the Machine. Sorry. That's a really good, really good song. A lot of stuff that Florence does is really good. I saw her at Coachella like, years ago. And when she performed this song, it was like, it was awesome. And she did on a broken leg too, because she had broken it a week before. And it was just like, like her stuff is just so good.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:56

Yeah, I feel like we can make an entire Florence Spooky playlist. I love them.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:02

Yes, she has this kind of like witchy like good witch

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:07


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:08

to it. Like, she's just like, not like spooky or any like witches in general are spooky. But like she's kind of like a good witch. So she has all these magical powers that kind of feels like,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:20

Yeah, I don't know how to explain it. But I agree.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:23

I mean, there is like hints of spookiness, especially with Seven Devils. But it's just like herself is like, so good. And it's like, nothing that I've really heard of, like heard heard out there. It's so different.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:35

It's hard. Because like, for me, I think we mentioned before, like, what do I listen to when I'm in the fall mode? And it's Florence. But then it's always like, oh, because like I'll get in that mood. And it's like, how do I keep this going?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:47


Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:47

There's nothing else you can put it with.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:50

Yeah not really? I mean, the only other thing that I can think of this fall but not spooky is John Mayer.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:57


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:58

All of his stuff is very, like fall and like let's cuddle up on the on the couch with a blanket with some soup. But it's not spooky, you know?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 33:07


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 33:09

I can't really think of anything else. It's kind of spooky and like heartfelt

Ghost Hostess Mandy 33:13

Like her.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 33:14

Yeah, like she's very unique.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 33:18


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 33:19

And I guess the last artists that I I included in there was this electronic band called Dance with the Dead. And you know, they have a lot of like 80s slasher music. Like in the vein of stuff that you would hear on Friday the 13th or the stuff that John Carpenter put together.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 33:42

Okay, that makes sense. Now that you're saying that's where

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 33:45

it's so it's a lot of synth stuff, but it's also combined with modern EDM stuff. So it's very, like intense and stuff. It's very like Kovensky I don't know if anybody's heard that band but a lot of their stuff was in Drive, right? Yeah, Drive with, what's that hunks name?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:07

Ryan Gosling.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:07

Ryan Gosling. But yeah, it's very cynthy very 80s very like intense. I would probably listen to it to get like the workout or or have a some type of like a montage where I'm like getting ready to like, battle some zombies or a slasher so very intense. There is actually in we'll try to I'll see if we can share it somehow. They did a cover of a of the theme song to Nightmare on Elm Street.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:38

Oh, I think you've shown it to me before

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:40

And it's really cool. It just like nightmare noun streets theme song is pretty spooky but this one kind of like, makes you want to dance to

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:49


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:49

So it's pretty cool.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:50

I have to say before we move forward that when I was growing up like in high school, so what like the mid O's Rudy hates it. But there was this like super popular trance mix of the Halloween theme song. That was like, didi didi didi it did it did it did did.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 35:10

I don't remember that.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 35:11

I've shown it to you before. And it's this it's like this heavy trance mix of the Halloween theme song. And like, it used to be super popular in like cardio workouts and like if you went to kickboxing classes, I wonder if anyone else heard that mix. I'm gonna like hunt it down on YouTube and share it with like our Patreon, because it was like such a vibe. Like every time it would come on. I was like, Yes. And I think I showed it to you once and you were like, Oh my god, this is a nightmare. So yeah, that was a little guilty pleasure of mine.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 35:45

What about you? What are your Why don't you talk about the songs you included?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 35:49

So I'm gonna you kept it so concise and I have like so many emotions about the songs. I chose

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 35:58

Because it's because I've listened to some so much music. And a lot of it has nothing to do with spookiness.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:05

I know.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:05

I could talk about music forever. But you know, I never really put together spookiness with music, right? The only song I can think of that has to do with spookiness that's always on my mind is Michael Jackson's Thriller, but that's everybody's

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:20


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:22

Right. But yeah, for the most part, like, I don't know, it's just that's how I feel about like, the songs that I chose for this spook. It's spooky, but, you know, my catalogue is a lot larger than than just spooky.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:36

Yeah, no, I get you, I guess. In general, I usually have a lot more to say about things than you do.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:42

That's true.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:44

So I will say that there is a song from Kim Petras on there. I hope I'm pronouncing her name right. Kim Petras. I should have asked Oscar before this, but I wanted to say that I actually started the playlist. And I started it with Kim Petras as kind of like a tribute to our familiar, because he's the one who actually showed me this album. And he's done a lot for us. And he deserved to be represented in this playlist, too. So the song is called Massacre. And I thought it was just like a really cool, spooky way to start things off, kind of build up. And then there's another song on there too, from The Killers called bones. I'm sure everyone has heard it. And Oscar and I bonded through The Killers originally when we first became friends. And so that kind of was like another little tribute for him. And I've just always loved the song like it's perfect for spooky couples.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:36

Yeah, the The Killers are solid,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 37:38

For sure. Which is one of the bands you've actually been able to film.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:42

Yeah, I remember they did a secret show in El Paso, Texas, because they did a regular show. And then a couple of my friends, they were in contact with the people that did the booking. And like, hey, they're gonna do a secret show just show up at this place. And it's gonna be fun. And I was able to like stand in front with Brandon Flowers, gave him a high five well I didn't give him a high five, but I was that close. And it was just really cool. Just being that close to The killers. Brandon Flowers is pretty small.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 38:12

We should share that video with our Ghoulsters Yeah, we can do that. We I will post that in our Patreon or our Discord actually, I think that'll be cool. Perfect for this week. Um, and so let's see, um, there is a song on there. So for those of you who have had a chance, were going to listen to our bonus Patreon episode of Hubie Halloween. I mean, Scooby Hubie Doo. Rudy kind of mentioned the movie fun size in there. And so I saw the movie Fun Size. Back when Rudy was traveling a lot for work by myself in October, and it was like the night I was gonna go pick him up. And the music in that movie was like so good. It was one of those, like, soundtracks that had a ton of like, more indie alternative music that wasn't like mainstream. And this song is called Masquerade. And it's by sleeping that last, and it put me in the most romantic spooky mood. Like I listened to it on replay that night when I was going to pick up Rudy because he talks the guy talks about how like he wants to dress up in a Halloween costume is whatever she wants him to be.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 39:20

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 39:21

Yeah, and it's just such a romantic song. And we're The Ghoul Mates. I had to include something super cheesy in there.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 39:28

It's pretty cheesy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 39:29

But you liked it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 39:30

From one to 10 Cheetos. It's a it's a nine on the Cheeto scale. It's pretty cheesy,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 39:38

but it's good.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 39:39

It's pretty good

Ghost Hostess Mandy 39:40

Okay to put into perspective though. So I told Rudy, I'm gonna have to mention this. The Twilight movies actually had like some really good alternative soundtracks like the first one had Muse, Linkin Park, Paramore, and then the breaking down, breaking down, the Breaking Dawn soundtrack actually had a song from this same band called Turning Page, which was one of my favorite songs. That's not a spooky song, but it's a really good romantic song. So the Fun Size soundtrack was really cool because it featured a lot of like,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 40:14

The same artists.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 40:15

Yeah, not that

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 40:16

The same feel.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 40:17

Yeah, same feel not as mainstream. And yeah, that's another reason why I really like One Tree Hill is because the music was very alternative with my mood. So, earlier, I said that I obsess over artists. And so I don't know how I went from Selena to Britney Spears. We'll pretend Britney Spears didn't happen. And then I discovered rock music, I guess I think I might have mentioned this before I discovered Linkin Park. And then from there, I fell in love with Evanescence. And for a really long time. I was completely obsessed with Evanescence. Like I love her voice. I loved the lyrics to the music. I loved everything. But then I became obsessed with Katy Perry, which is weird. How does someone go from Evanescence to Katy Perry?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 41:11

How does someone go there?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 41:12

So this goes back to my weird nerdiness. But I fell in love with her branding.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 41:18

With Katy Perry branding?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 41:19

Yes, yeah. Um, I originally like, wasn't into her. I thought that her whole like I kissed a girl being was like such a, like, sellout thing to do, because she had a really good voice. Like, one time I randomly tried singing, I kissed a girl and karaoke. And there's like a part in it the very like, like the climax of the song.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 41:38


Ghost Hostess Mandy 41:39

And I was like, holy crap. That's a high note. Like, why is she doing this?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 41:43

Wasn't she like in a rock band before?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 41:46

Uh, yeah, she kind of had roots in I don't remember what the name of it was. But she had like a really challenging time trying to like get established.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 41:54


Ghost Hostess Mandy 41:55

And I didn't know anything about her, of course, at this time when I discovered her. But when I finally sang the song and karaoke, ironically, I was like, What the hell like that was a really high note to hit, like, Why is she resorting to these things? Like, it's obviously just the thing to get, like popular.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 42:16


Ghost Hostess Mandy 42:18

So but then I listened to her album. And it was like, really good. Like, if you listen to it, there's some alternative in there. One of my favorite songs is called Mannequin. I can go on and on about Katy Perry. But what I really wanted to say was her Prism album had some really good songs. And I chose to add Spiritual to it because I feel like everybody knows the pop bubbly version of Katy Perry. But her influences are actually like, clean. And I'm blanking now because I'm putting me on the spot. But she's not this pop girl that everyone makes her out to be. And when I really felt like hardcore in love with her was during Teenage Dream because her branding was so cohesive and onpoint like she created this whole like, candy-fornia cotton candy clouds, like every single thing down to like her lyrics matched her theme. And you guys are getting to know me, I love themes. And so she was just like, super consistent and who she was down to, like, every single word every way she like promoted anything she did was this cohesive dream she created. And it showed in the album like I think it was. She's the only artist to have more singles number one singles in one album than Michael Jackson.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 43:40

Yeah, I have to agree with you there. I I didn't really think much of Katy Perry. Before I met you, and then you kind of had me listen to a lot of stuff. And she's really talented. I think she's very underrated.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 43:53

She is underrated. And people don't respect her.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 43:56

I don't know. Yeah, I don't understand that either. I think maybe a lot of people hate on her because she's super talented. And she's really good looking.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 44:07


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 44:08

like too good looking at some sometimes.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 44:10

Yeah and that's the thing like she's never won a Grammy. But just like Taylor Swift, she has written every single one of her songs. She plays the guitar, she can stand there, play the guitar and sing and stay in tune most of the time. So it's just this constant. Like I don't know why she gets so much hate. And I will admit that her Witness stage was a little weird. And I couldn't really resonate with the music. But outside of that, she's starting to come back. She's happy. She's mentally healthy. Again, I think I think part of it was she was very unhappy and I don't want to get too much into it. But I really wanted to focus on the Prism album, and there's more coming out other playlists. But the Spiritual song is a really good introduction to who Katy Perry really is. And not this like pop, bubbly person that everyone has made her out to be.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 45:00

True. I just hope that she gets her black hair back at some point.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 45:06

I know. I know you're saying because you think she's more attractive that way. I do too naturally, but I don't know.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 45:12

It's because like, I don't know, I don't feel that she's Katy Perry with that hair.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 45:17

Agreed. It's like, weird.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 45:19

It doesn't it has nothing to do with her looking better. I mean, she does look better with her dark hair. She's just not Katy Perry right now to me. Without her dark, long hair.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 45:30

Yeah. Which like, she's kind of reason I adopted the the bangs that I have now. And she's not that person no more.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 45:37

I know. I mean, I know that she drew a lot of inspiration from the Katy Keene comic book from Archie Comics. And a lot of those characters she created are very Halloween. But they all have like that dark hair that signature dark hair. And I miss that, like all of her characters had that same hair or some kind of colored hair. So I kind of miss that dark hair.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 45:59

Yeah, it's interesting. Like, I don't know. I don't know, I have like a lot to say. And if I start I'm never gonna stop. Um, so I will leave it at that. I hope you guys can. If you're not open to Katy Perry, I hope that this song changes that for you. It's very 80s alternative. Not all of her music is like that. I'm not gonna lie. But songs like that, like are rare throughout her music career. And those are the moments when you're like, dang, she is not what she's made out to be. She's so much more.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 46:34

Give her a shot guys. And I mean, guys, as dudes, she's more than just a looker. Got the brain too.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 46:42

Yeah, for sure. And I'll have to say that I'm Katy Perry is a big part of Ghost Hostess Mandy in the sense that she's the one who like inspired me to be creative and like dress up all the time. Oscar will tell you bless his heart. He's put up with me in some really weird stages. But there were like times when I would wear wigs for like everything because of Katy Perry. I would always wear like fake eyelashes. And I didn't care back to like the whole. I was just like, so free to be who I wanted to be. And Katy Perry like really inspired that in me for a while. And then I like again, as I mentioned, kind of grew up and out of it but Ghost Hostess Mandy is back. And I'm letting the world know that I love Katy Perry. Um, and then just I kind of touched on it. Evanescence. You guys know, I mean, what spooky girl doesn't like Evanescence. But one of the songs that I really love from them is called Lacrymosa and it's, I guess, a rendition of a Mozart song. Not a rendition. I don't know. It's sampled?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 47:55

She like she has her own lyrics, right?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 47:58

Yes. But she took part of the actual Lacrymosa song also.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 48:01

Oh, yeah. I think they they took the arrangement. And the

Ghost Hostess Mandy 48:06


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 48:06

Paired it with different lyrics.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 48:08

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 48:09

Um, I don't know what I guess it's a mashup or remix.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 48:14


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 48:15

But yeah, I've heard it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 48:16

Uh, yeah, so that's actually I think probably my number one favorite Evanescence song. Because of that, I just thought it was like, really cool. And it's not one of her fa- like famous number one songs. Everybody knows it's really cool. So that being said, you all know how much I love Evanescence, and I know that some of you do too. And maybe I'm just really out of the music realm right now. But I have personally had this void in my life for a while where like, I hadn't found good alternative music like that feeds my soul in a while the way the older Evanescence music used to. So this leads us into why I'm so excited about our next artist. We got to interview I discovered Nihilist Abyss through a post on Instagram with a preview to her new song Necromancy and I was like, Whoa, what is this? I need more. So the more I went down the rabbit hole of Nihilist Abyss The more I was like, I need to share this with our ghoulsters her music has spooky vibes. But you can just tell she has this love for like spooky things too. And sure enough, it turns out her music is inspired by industrial elements and the soundtracks of horror movies. So Nihilist Abyss is a newcomer to the alternative music world her debut single Dark Days was released in August of last year 2019 and by December of that year, the song was included on Chicago music guides best of 2019 list. Her follow up single Mother Winter has also received airtime on Chicago radio, and this August of 2020. She released her new single Necromancy so today we have Cherice Cosentino from Nihilist Abyss here to talk about her music.

Ghoulster 49:59

And now let's give a Ghoulster welcome to the Cherice.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 50:06

Hi, Cherice, thanks for joining us today.

Cherice Cosentino 50:09

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 50:11

So before we talk about your music today, we like to let our audience get a taste of our guests. Spooky tastes. Do you mind if we start with a round of spooky icebreakers?

Cherice Cosentino 50:20

I'm ready, let's do it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 50:22

Okay, what is your favorite horror movie soundtrack?

Cherice Cosentino 50:25

Oh, um, so The Shining just because you know, like that big synth brass is like a whole theme is awesome. It's like super imposing.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 50:35


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 50:36

Okay. Monster Mash or Thriller.

Cherice Cosentino 50:39

Thriller, because all right, so backstory on this one. When I was a kid, and I was like stumbling through the TV, I remember 8 million times accidentally somehow stumbling upon the thriller music video, probably through like VH1 one or like MTV, or whatever it was playing. And I was always really confused about it as a kid. I was like, is this a movie? Is this a music video? What is going on? But I think it stuck with me like forever. So I gotta go with Thriller.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 51:05

I think that's everybody's reaction. Like,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 51:07

I remember that too. That's awesome.

Cherice Cosentino 51:09

Yeah, like being like, partly intrigued by it. And also, like, partially terrified and really having like, no idea what's going on.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 51:16

Yeah. If you could cover one spooky song, what would it be?

Cherice Cosentino 51:21

One spooky song. Oh, I should have done my homework. One spooky song. Hold on. Let me think. Let's come back to that one.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 51:35


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 51:37

So Billy Eilish recently released her song for the new 007 movie, and I wanted to know if you were going to be writing a song and singing in a song. What horror franchise would you want to do it for?

Cherice Cosentino 51:52

What horror franchise? Um, so like in terms of like modern horror movies, I really loved the entire like Conjuring universe.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 52:01


Cherice Cosentino 52:03

Like their soundtrack is not really like a soundtrack though, because it's mostly just like ominous noises, just like moments. And then another modern horror series that I don't think got particularly good praise, but I really enjoyed it was Insidious.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 52:19


Ghost Hostess Mandy 52:19

Oh, okay.

Cherice Cosentino 52:20

We familiar with that one?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 52:22


Cherice Cosentino 52:23

Yeah. Like, I don't know, I'm really into like the supernatural kind of horror, because I mean, like, gore doesn't bother me. I don't think that's scary. So it's got to be like something supernatural. So either guy like something and like The Conjuring world like Annabelle. Or like, if there's another Conjuring movie or the Insidious series.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 52:39

Thats awesome.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 52:39

That's awesome. Those are the movies, I'm terrified of. So I kind of want to establish that you are a one woman show because that needs to be said. So your I guess stage name is Nihilist Abyss, but you don't have a band helping you put the music together? Right?

Cherice Cosentino 52:56

Yeah, for the most part. Um, so I write and kind of conceptualize everything in for the most part, it's been really like a studio project where I everything pretty much starts on piano. That's kind of like my main instrument. When once I have some of that underlying chord progression down, then I'll open up my computer and go into Logic Pro and just kind of like, sort through the 8 million like, pre loaded. VST on Logic Pro. And eventually just, it all kind of starts coming together in one way or another. So nobody else is really writing the music. I definitely get help when it comes to production and mixing and mastering because that is like, out of my wheelhouse, entirely. So, Nick Dipiro, if you're familiar with the band tonight, versus I don't know if we are, he has helped immensely. With Mother Winter, Less Than and then now in Necromancy as well. He did all the guitars in Less Than as well. He was like, Hey, hold up, like I came up with this. Like, are you cool if I added it? And I was like yeah, that's that's awesome. But other than that, no, it's just me. My husband Matt is a musician and like it when COVID started, I was like, we're gonna do live acoustic shows in our living room like every week, and he kind of like helped play guitar on that because I cannot play guitar. But that hasn't happened in a while because life is his life. So we can Yeah, it is it is just me.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 54:28

That's awesome. Do you want to share with us a little bit of history behind why you didn't use your name and how you decided on nihilist abyss?

Cherice Cosentino 54:37

Yeah, I mean, my real name is a mouthful to begin with. It's many letters long, and people do have trouble pronouncing it so like that is first and foremost. Second, in really embarrassing in high school. I did this like freak folk music project that I used under my own name. So like somewhere on the internet in the world. There is like a freak folk project under Cherice Cosentino and the music is absolutely terrible. I highly recommend not searching for that. I think all the links are dead. So that was another driving force. Also like as I get older, like and we grew up with the internet really so like, who like knows what's like, what is under my name on like a deep Google search. I have no idea like things we did when we were like 13 are still on the internet somewhere. So like, you know, Nihilist Abyss. Let's do that instead. Yeah, and as a name I pulled from if are familiar with the band metric. Their lead singer Emily Haines has a solo project called Emily Hands on the Soft Skeleton. And she has a song called Nihilist Abyss and I was like, well, that's pretty cool name. Then she is I'd say one of my favorite like singer songwriters. So I kind of wanted to honor her and her like, legacy and commitment to feminism.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 56:00

And that's awesome.

Cherice Cosentino 56:02

Mm hmm. So it's like less spooky than everybody thinks it's going to be.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 56:07

Hey, it means something, though. And that's what counts.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 56:10

So let's take it back further. How did your journey and inspiration to write music begin.

Cherice Cosentino 56:16

Um, so I mean, my dad played guitar while I was growing up. And I think that has always been like kind of the foundation for me. Just like watching him play. He was like, super into classic rock. So I remember just like heading into the bedroom into his bedroom when I was a kid and just listening to him like jam like Fleetwood Mac and the eagles and like, AC DC, and all this, like classic rock music and just like listening and being so fascinated. So like, as soon as I was able to, like, do anything music related, I was like, this set, this is cool. I want to do this. like kind of like noodled around taught myself piano when I was gifted, like, like a little like 61 key Casio keyboard when I was like 10 or 11. And like, from there on, it's just been like, I've always been kind of like an in my own world sort of kid to begin with, and like, not really fitting in and money places. So it was like, definitely an outlet. You know, everybody's angsty when they're a teenager. And my dad had a long battle with cancer, which I definitely think I probably needed to, like, get out a lot of emotion relating to that. But I wouldn't say like, I really started like writing music and going like, Okay, this is like kind of maybe what I want to do until after he passed away when I was a teenager. Because then I like I really doubled down and was like, I need an outlet. I have no outlet for this. And I just like sat down at the piano in the living room. And I was like 17 I wrote this, like 10 minute long, ridiculous epic. I'm just like, pouring out every thought and emotion that I had been building up for like the last like four years of his life. And then from there, like the rest is history, I just kept writing. And doing music, that folk music project that is in the history of the world is is was born from that. And you know, like I kind of took a break in my early in mid 20s life kind of just has a way of forcing you to focus on life more than anything. You know, I had a daughter when I was in my early 20s. So then a lot of that was spent being a mom. And then things got real crazy. In my personal life, I'd say when I was like 25/26. And then I was like, I am going to write it again. Because that is better than drinking my feelings. So instead of drinking my feelings started putting that into music. Although, you know, like, still everyone smile, you know, have a bottle of wine. But yeah, then everything started just going into music and was writing everything honestly, on my phone in GarageBand, just like on the mic that was attached to the headphones that come with your iPhone. And from there, it's just been like, Alright, I want to like keep doing this, like cool electronic stuff, because that's like, totally, it was so out of my wheelhouse for so long. And I just I really love it. I definitely listens to quite a bit of like Nine Inch Nails and other industrial bands when I was a teenager in high school. So I think that the inspiration was always there to do that. And then technology has just provided so many opportunities to really pursue that into what it has become today.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 59:26

That's awesome.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 59:28


Ghost Hostess Mandy 59:28

I love that you mentioned you you've kind of used it as your therapy through life. It's interesting, you bring that up because I'm, I love singing as a hobby. And for me when I get emotional, like I just can't do it. Like I'll just end up crying. So I really admire you being able to use that as therapy and like pushing through it because it's hard when you're emotional. So kudos to you on that, I think and it shows in your work that there's like a lot of emotion in it and that's what people resonate with.

Cherice Cosentino 59:57

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, don't get me wrong, like there's definitely A lot of crying involved in my life. You know the music in addition to that?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:00:05

That's good. Yeah, I hear you. So your bio says that your music is an electronically charged layer of synthesizers, lush atmospheres and hard hitting drums providing the perfect backdrop for dramatic soaring melodies and choir influenced, choir influenced harmonies, how do you go about creating a perfect combination of all these things?

Cherice Cosentino 1:00:29

There is no formula. There really isn't. I wish I could tell you that there was I wish I could tell you like, okay, like, I'm going to go in and I'm going to pick my drum sound and like, I'm just like, good at that, I'm just going to do it. But everything kind of just happens, just by stumbling upon things that ended up working with what's already written. And sometimes that means that like four or five versions of the song exist before it even gets released, like trying to find, like, I've been looking for this sound, and I can hear it in my head. And I can't translate that into like, you know, like the beep boops. But honestly, it all just kind of happens organically just on the on through like logic. And with synthesizers, I do have several analog synths that I've been trying to incorporate more as well. But in terms of like, you know, the harmony aspect is, I was in choir from like, sixth grade up through high school, and then I briefly very briefly went to music school, and picked voice as my major there. And when you, when you say Alto, in choir, you get very, very good at harmonies, because you never get the melody line in choir. So a lot of the times it's just like, I have so much of this, like choral music and like classical music background, like, that's just always there. And I think it just kind of like, have to put it in there.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:01:57

Yeah. And I love that, like, you can hear all of that and I really enjoy listening to it.

Cherice Cosentino 1:02:02

Thank you. That's always the goal at the end of the day is to you know, hope other people are enjoying it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:02:08

Yeah, definitely. So something I really love about your music and I think that our listeners are going to love is the lyrics. There are themes of witches, animals, and I mean your song Necromancy speaks for itself. So what's your creative process to making sure that the spooky themes are cohesive? And not only the melodies but in the lyrics too?

Cherice Cosentino 1:02:28

Yeah, I mean, I can only write about I can only write it from a place that is like, true to myself without getting like too cheesy. Like That is my authentic self. So I I don't, I mean, I always want to leave myself open for options, but I don't think I could ever be that person that writes like bubblegum pop when it's like a love song, like every other song or like single that comes out. Because horror movies really are my favorite genre of movie. So I'm like, constantly listening to like, Alright, like these little textures that they add in where it's like a swelling of a sin or, like, you know, like, I really like, cheesy, like, almost cliche, like, there's a spirit and all of a sudden their bones are cracking and the soundtrack. And like, you know, like, all of those things, I think are just like stuck into my brain. So that's just what I'm using. And like, when you surround yourself with things, like I have pulled on me Actually, listeners won't be able to see this but on on my desk is like little no face. We're familiar. So I could just have like these constant like spooky things just surrounding me. So it's like, easy to like pull inspiration from that. And it just happens really organically and naturally.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:03:42

So this is going to kind of go off topic. Not really. But do you kind of want to talk about your love for spooky things and for Halloween because I've been seeing it show in your Instagram and I'm like she really is a spooky girl like us.

Cherice Cosentino 1:03:55

yes, absolutely. Yeah, I don't know. It started when I was a kid. I was never like, afraid of the the scary stuff. Um, there was a there's a pumpkin farm. Close to like, where I grew up that always did like these really awesome haunted houses and even from like, being like six or seven. I was like, We're going in, right and like, my sister would be like, Whoa, no, and I'd have to get like one of my uncle's or like my dad to go in with me. And even though I'd be like, terrified, I'd still always want to do it, you know, and just like never bothered me. So that is just just me.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:04:32

That's awesome. You kind of just like know from the beginning at a young age, I think that you're gonna like love those things. And yes, people it's a hard no from the very beginning.

Cherice Cosentino 1:04:44

Yes, definitely. I have. I have a niece who is very girly. And she she doesn't like anything spooky. And like my daughter will walk around the house calling herself Wednesday. So I think he was always know like from like an early age like Like what you're going to be into and that like may change and morph and like, grow. But yeah, yeah, you're kind of always into what you're into.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:05:07

Yeah. And it sounds like you've really owned loving those things your entire life. So that's awesome. I know, for me, I kind of like lost track, not track, but I kind of like hid it for a while, and I finally found it again. So I think it's awesome that you've kind of like always lived and breathed it lived and breathed it.

Cherice Cosentino 1:05:24

Yeah, I mean, for the most part, obviously, like, you know, there are times when I can't be walking around like, dark and foreboding, like, the parent teacher conference, I should probably just put like, on a nice shirt or something. And, you know, like, in terms of like, witchy things, you know, there I come from a very, like, Catholic upbringing. So that's, you know, not always something I'm like, super super out and like, just, like, thrown in everybody's face. And I live in a relatively uptight, like, affluent community that I think that if they walked into my apartment, they probably wouldn't be thrilled with what they saw. So you know, you're open about it as best as you can you find your like community of like minded people. That's what's awesome about the internet is that you can find other people like yourselves who are into the same stuff, and we just all kind of create our own little misfit world online.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:06:16

Yes, for sure. The Internet bringing misfits together. I really love that and have I feel like that's been one of the best things to come of quarantine for us is finding people like you.

Cherice Cosentino 1:06:28

Yeah, yes. Thank you for finding me.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:06:31

So do you want to jump back to our question about the cover? Which spooky song you would like to cover?

Cherice Cosentino 1:06:39

Yes. And I had to actually just like do a quick Google of spooky songs. Because I felt so bad that I couldn't answer that earlier today. But I would say that I would probably get not even like necessarily like a spooky song. But like, kind of a spooky song. But like, Sweet Dreams from the Eurythmics.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:07:00

Oh, nice.

Cherice Cosentino 1:07:02

I think has been covered, like to death and does not need another cover. But it is such a good song.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:07:08

I hear you on that one. That's awesome. Great choice.

Cherice Cosentino 1:07:12

Thank you.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:07:12

I noticed on your Spotify that you actually have like a fan curated list for quarantine? Do you kind of want to talk about that? Because I feel like a lot of our fans would love to hear about that playlist. And actually, like listen to it.

Cherice Cosentino 1:07:27

Yeah, I'm so early on in quarantine. Like, I'd say like when things just like started lock, like things just started locking down here in the US and like, everything seemed really uncertain. And like, I mean, emotions are still high, I think for a lot of people, but emotions were really high. And everybody was really uncertain. And nobody really knew what was going on. I put out a call on Instagram was like, hey, like, this might be a really great use of time right now. You know, send me all of your like, favorite like this is the apocalypse type songs and I just like combed through the comments. And tried to like not do too many of like the same artists over and over again that but other than that, I threw in a few songs that I liked. But other than that, it was really like fans picked the music. I haven't added anything to that in a while, I should actually probably put out a call for more suggestions, and I will add them.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:08:15

Alright, so I am personally dying to hear more of your music. So what's next for nihilist abyss?

Cherice Cosentino 1:08:21

Yes, um, so there's always like 8 million songs in the background waiting for me to actually finish them. But what's next next is probably like a four to five track EP. And I'm kind of like stepping back and like taking, you know, stripping things back a little bit and kind of doing a more acoustic route. I don't want to say it's going to be all acoustic. Because there's definitely going to be electronic elements to that. But it will definitely be a lot more chill. And I've been trying to learn more of the mixing, mixing side of things. So as of right now will most likely be self produced and self mixed. And I'm hoping to get that out between December and February, but I haven't set a date yet.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09:08

Awesome. Well, we'll be looking out for it. And we'll definitely be sharing it with our listeners once it does come out.

Cherice Cosentino 1:09:14

Yes, I'm super excited. Thank you.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09:17

You're welcome. So where can our listeners connect with you and listen to your music?

Cherice Cosentino 1:09:22

Yes. So any available streaming service, you name it, Spotify, apple, YouTube, whatever other streaming services, I may be missing there. And then I would say that I'm most active on social media on Instagram. So that would be a great place to check that out. instagram.com/nihilistabyss or just @nihilistabyss.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09:44


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:09:45


Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09:46

Thank you for joining us today. It's been so great chatting with you.

Cherice Cosentino 1:09:50

Yes, absolutely. I'm so happy to be on. Thanks for having me again.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:09:53

Yes. And we're looking forward to hearing more from you.

Cherice Cosentino 1:09:56

Thank you, you will be.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:04

All right, guys, you know we can't end the show without a

Ghoulster 1:10:08

Fables from our Familiar.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:10:10

What do we got on the docket today my love?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:12

Today we've got backmasking.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:10:16

What? Back masking?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:21


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:10:21

Putting a mask on your back.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:24

No. I'm sure you know what it is what

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:10:26

What is it explain it to me?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:27

Okay, so this

Ghoulster 1:10:29

Fables from our Familiar

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:10:31

is backmasking. Most of you have probably heard of it before backmasking can be tracked all the way back to Thomas Edison. After inventing the phonograph in 1877. He realized when a record was playing backwards, a novel and sweet but although different sound was played. In the early 1950s, musicians began incorporating these melodies and lyrics into their compositions. Then in 1966, The Beatles released their seventh album Revolver with backmasked melodies and sounds. You can clearly hear this different sound in the songs Rain and Tomorrow Never Ends. There are also conspiracy theories that the Beatles included subliminal messages in their ninth album in the 1968 White Album. At the end of the song I'm So Tired. John lennon could be heard speaking gibberish at the very end of the song, when played in reverse conspirators claimed it sounded like he is saying, Paul is dead man. I miss him. I miss him. I miss him. So here's what it sounds like.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:12:08

Yeah, it's creepy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:12:11

So, in the 1970s, Christian groups started to protest claiming that backmasking could reach a young person's subconscious. They believe demons or the devil would use rock songs to communicate secret messages from Satan. They stated there were three theories of backmasking intentional, accidental and spiritual. Intentional was recording a song then intentionally reversing it and putting it out on tape to hear a hidden message. Accidental backmasking was when musicians recorded songs regularly but messages somehow still show up when played in reverse. These Christian groups believe that the only explanation with a was a spiritual backmasking intelligent demons or external forces would use musicians to spread messages through their music, particularly rock music. When people listen to these backmasking Lyrics the subconscious would be able to decipher the message resulting in mind control.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:13:06

Mind Control.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:13:08

So here's a list of some of the songs the Christian groups claimed to have the devil in the music one was El Dorado by ELO is that right? E L O?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:13:20

ELO Yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:13:22

So the lyrics said, here it comes another lonely day playing the game I'll stay away on a voyage of No Return to see if eternal life is meant to be the reversed in the song is he's the nasty one Christ your infernal though it is said we're Deadman everyone who has the mark will live.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:13:43

It's very specific. I am I doubt that. It says any of that stuff. You want to hear it? Yeah, let's hear it. That's it man it really sound like anything I mean it sounds creepy I can hear some of it but it didn't just

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:15:24

parts of it does sound that way so we won't get into all of them but some of the others are Another One Bites the Dust from Queen

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:15:33

I think I've heard that one

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:15:34

That one supposedly instead of Another One Bites the Dust backward says start to smoke marijuana. Oscar wrote a note this one's kind of funny and then there's another one from Cheap Trick called Gonna Raise Hell that says I never lose to me it's no mystery and in reverse it's you know, Satan holds the key to the lock. And then the last one is Stairway to Heaven says it's just a spring clean from the May queen. Yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on. And the reverse is my sweet Satan no other made a path for it makes me sad. whose power is Satan He'll give those with him. 666 Rudy just rolled his eyes. So you guys are listening to this. So it's hard to see. But I can tell you that when I'm looking at the lyrics side to side, the quotation reverse lyrics don't actually spell what you're supposedly hearing in these messages.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:16:38


Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:16:38

So are familiar did some investigative research on this and the reason backmasking is such a popular belief is because of pareidolia.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:16:49


Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:16:50

Parrot, Dalia? pareidolia. Oh my gosh, this sounds silly. I looked it up before and I already forgot.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:16:56

Have you heard of it? No, never heard of it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:17:04

Okay, so I think it's pareidolia, pareidolia and I'm gonna sound so silly, pareidolia and priming. So pareidolia is the tendency to perceive a specific message in a random or ambiguous pattern, like shapes in clouds, faces on objects or hidden messages in music.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:17:27

Oh, yeah, I've heard of that are like people that see the image of Christ on a piece of toast?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:17:34

Yes, exactly. Okay, I've heard of that. And then priming is the exposure to one stimulus and will influence how a person responds to subsequent stimulus. So if someone hears a message in the lyrics, which is the pareidolia, then they tell someone else to listen for these specific words, which is priming, then they'll hear those specific words too

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:17:55

Yeah. Kind of like ghosts.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:17:58

Yes, exactly. When I read this, I was like, Mind blown.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18:03

Hey, this is a spooky house. There might be ghosts in there. What do you think?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:18:08


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18:08

Oh, crap. There's ghosts in there. Because it's so creepy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:18:11

Yes, just like we were talking about in the werewolves last week. When I read the notes, I was like, Oh, we did it. This last week. So I didn't expect us to have like too much of a post discussion about this, but I thought it was interesting.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18:27

Yeah, I remember a lot of this stuff. It was like, pretty popular. When I grew up, um, we got to do it with records. So you would like have a playing but then like force the

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:18:40

Oh yes.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18:41

A motor to going backwards and you can hear stuff. So it was popular back in the day. I remember there was also a song. Rollercoaster of love.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:18:52

The rollercoaster?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:18:53

Yeah. Oh, and this is not. I don't know if you have to play it in reverse. or listen to the song normally, but there was like this urban legend that you could hear a production assistant getting murdered in the sound booth.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:19:10


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:19:11

Yeah, look it up. It's like an urban legend that you like this person was getting murdered and it was recorded on the track.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:19:17


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:19:18

It's not true. But it's pretty. It's pretty spooky. Actually. If you listen to it,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:19:24

You can you can hear it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:19:25

Yeah, because you can hear it like in the background like people. So it's a I think it was a stereo track. So you have the left and right. Uh huh. And you were able to isolate some of the stuff out and you can hear like the screaming, but it's not. I don't think it's real.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:19:52

Interesting. That's crazy. Could you bring a fable in there you go. All right, that was pretty cool. It I'm not even gonna lie, though. Like, I know. I agree. I don't think that the messages are intentional. And I also have to add that the part where Oscar kind of he explained to me more that like people would purposely create music to also play in reverse. Yeah, that's a lot of frickin effort, guys.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:20:24

Yeah, there's actually people that can, um, talk backwards.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:20:31

Oh, that's creepy.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:20:32

Yeah, there's a song. I don't know where I saw it. I saw it on YouTube when there's this girl. And she she talks like all this gibberish and stuff. That's really weird. And then you play it in reverse. And she's speaking regular.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:20:44

Oh, that just creeps me out.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:20:48

See, and I told you like, like, those things are scary.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:20:53

That is scary. That is creepy.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:20:55

Because like, these are intentional things or things that are, were made up by humans and stuff. And those are way scarier than ghosts. I know we keep coming back to that. But like, I think who was I think Tess was talking about it on her show on OCD about serial killers. Oh, yeah, those it's scary, because those are real things. Those are real people and real things that happen. Those are scary.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:21:21

I get that I'm not. Okay. When they tell you that I'm afraid of ghosts. It does not mean that I'm not afraid of real things. What I fear about ghosts is not understanding how I can defend myself against it if it ever happens.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:21:36

Yeah, I know.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:21:37

But there's also things like somebody's speaking in tongues. That's freaking creepy, too.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:21:42

That's true. That's very creepy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:21:44

Oh, and, um, like I said, I don't really think that these messages are intentional. But they are still really creepy to listen to backwards, like listening to music backwards. The first time that I like clicked on the links for Oscar, because I've heard of it before.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:21:58

You can get like any song and play in reverse.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:22:01

It's creepy

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:22:03

just because you're not yet because you're listening to it. And it's odd. It's not, you know, normal. And that's what makes it creepy. Just like, like, if you see anything like any image with like, a human face with no eyes.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:22:19

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:22:19

And it's just dark. Like, when you see somebody's face and you see their eyes, you know, you can see that they're human, because you know, you're used to seeing a pupil and like the rest of the eyeball, but he right, have anything that has eyeballs. It's, it's unnatural and not real.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:22:35


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:22:36

So you have like that creepiness to it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:22:38

Yeah. And speaking of music, too. I don't know any of the terms are super out of touch with my music, but I should we should probably circle back to this eventually. Music also has, and you've mentioned this, that like they purposely do things in movies to like make you feel alarmed.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:22:56


Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:22:57

Music has that where like certain notes combined will make you feel like extreme emotions. This isn't spooky, but the Adele song, someone like you has those notes in it. And that's why it's such a major heart hitting hit. Yeah, because of that science behind it. So

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:23:16

Yeah, I think there's a lot of horror movies. I think a lot of the major ones, especially ones with ghosts in it. Mm hmm. You know, they'll insert like this low frequency that you don't really hear you actually feel it. I mean, we're listening to something you actually are feeling it because it's a vibration hitting your eardrum, and then it's like transferring that information into, you know, sound,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:23:40


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:23:41

But this frequency is so low that you do feel it, but you're not hearing it, and it gives you anxiety. So it's gonna intense or make anything you're watching more intense,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:23:53


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:23:53

And that's on purpose. Like they want you to feel scared and uneasy and give you anxiety. And you know, that's a, you know, a trick of, you know, making you feel that way,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:03

right. Maybe we when we do get to do a short film, or a horror film or something, I think should always be just playing music backwards because it's freaky.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:11

Yeah. You know what, actually, I looked up on that frequency.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:16

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:17

To see if it would make me feel uncomfortable.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:19

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:20

And this is weird, and they'll freak out.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:23

No, I don't want to know.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:25

Okay, I won't. I won't say anything then.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:27


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:29

So I was I was playing it. Um, because I because I was like, I heard I don't know where I heard it. But they were talking about that frequencies. Like, you know what, I want to look it up and like you can find different YouTube videos of that frequency. And I didn't feel anything or hear anything specifically. You don't really hear anything. But when I played it, Bruce freaked out.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:24:53

Oh, yes.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:24:57

So I think he was able to hear that frequency. I would stop it and then he would just kind of chill and stuff like that. And then we play it again and he'd start freaking out again.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:25:06

Oh, yeah.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:25:07

So, you know, I think that's real.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:25:09

Yeah, it's just crazy. It's also like two in the morning right now and the entire apartment is dead silent. So yeah.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:25:18

I'm not gonna lie when you're playing those examples.

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Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:25:22

I'm like, I was rolling my eyes because of the whole Christians thinking like devil.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:25:27


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:25:29

I don't think it's the devil but just hearing it. It's creepy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:25:32

It's creepy. Yes. Agreed. We went from like, an emotion a roller coaster of emotions today, from like, feeling anxiety over going to vote to watching Hubie Halloween and getting off of that and now we're back to thinking the devil's talking to us.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:25:51

I think we're gonna have to watch Fun Size and fall asleep to Fun Size.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:25:57

Alright guys, we hope you enjoyed our first music episode. We know it was like, all over the place. But that's how our music taste is.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:26:06

This true.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:26:07

And a lot like you've heard there's points where we completely clash and our notes do not harmonize and sometimes it's perfect harmony. So check out our show notes we have links to Nino Lucarelli's Spotify page, we also have Nihilist Abyss Spotify page and on there you can also see her playlist that she created for quarantine from all of her fans. And you can actually see The Ghoul Mates Volume One playlists and let us know what you think of all the songs we put on there. Maybe we'll retire this idea and not ever do a playlist again. Let us know. Until next time we are sending you ghouls and kisses.

The Ghoul Mates 1:26:47


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