S1, E7: It's Not Just a Phase / Dealing with Anxiety

Updated: Jan 4

The Ghoul Mates share how their love for Halloween developed. Rudy opens up and shares his battle with anxiety and how Mandy helped him get through it to enjoy spooky stuff again!

Rudy covering his ear.

Ghoulster 0:01

Welcome Foolish Ghoulsters to podcast that keeps the spirit of Halloween alive all year through pop culture and nostalgia and now it's love at first fright with The Ghoul Mates.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:16

Hi guys. I'm your Ghost Hostess Mandy.

Beetlejuice 0:19

I'm the ghost with the most babe.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:21

And I'm your Master of Scaremonies Rudy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:27

What is up spooky people?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:29

Spooking it up spook style, what's up?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:33

Alright guys, I kind of realized that it seems like we have updates about the podcast or what's going on with our Ghoul Mates project every week. So we are starting a new segment called

Ghoulster 0:46

Haunted Housekeeping.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:50

So what is the update for today?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:52

Okay, so today's update is we had so much fun on the last episode. I think we finally found our groove and we also decided that we're going to definitely do 12 episodes per season with our podcast to kind of give us a little bit of time to recuperate and also start brainstorming content that's coming up.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:14

Content is king.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:16

That's right. So we will be taking a break on. Oh my goodness. There we go. There's my notes. Sorry. We will be ending season one on August 7, which is actually six weeks away. This is our seventh episode. So if you've made it this far, thank you Ghoulsters and-

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:40

I do need a break though. You're making me spray paint everything black and it's making my finger black.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:46

I'm making use spray paint?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:48

Oh, yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:48

No, you're the one asking can I paint everything black? I'm surprised you haven't asked me to actually paint the actual walls black.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:55

I'm gonna paint our dogs black. They're already black.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:00

Okay, but the even better news is that when we return from our break, we will be kicking off season two, right in time for spooky season on August 28. And we already have plans so we promise stick around because it's going to get haunted up in here.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:19

Up in this heezy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:22

And our other housekeeping for today is that we got our very first piece of fan mail.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:30

That is right, exciting stuff.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:31

We were excited and surprise so huge shout out to our Ghoulster Irma for being so supportive, and also putting our knowledge to the test.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:41


Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:41

She sent us a horror trivia game, but-

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:44

It's pretty awesome.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:45

Quick little story about this. We previously bought a horror trivia game.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:50

Trivial Pursuit. I think like a mini Trivial Pursuit.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:53

Okay. Yeah, we bought it at Hot Topic,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:55


Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:56

And we opened it to quickly find out that we didn't know like a single answer to any of the questions.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:01

Yeah, they're pretty hard. They're very obscure questions that no no normal person would know. Like, what color or what kind of latex we use then the Halloween mask like something crazy like that. They're just too crazy.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:15

Yeah. But so we ended up trying this new horror trivia game that Irma sent to us. And it was a really good mix of easy and I guess normal to hard questions. And by that, I mean, we're probably still gonna be terrible at it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:28


Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:29

But we decided to make a game of it on our podcast every episode.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:33


Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:34

So every episode we are going to open with each of us asking one.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:40

Just one.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:41

Just one or trivia question. Yep. And if we get it wrong, we are starting a horror movie list.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:49

Okay, yeah, we got to get a board so people can see it with the first one's gonna have to go up there and we'll put it on Instagram. Movie number one.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:57

I was actually thinking about that earlier. Remember our chalkboard from the wedding.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:01

Oh yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:01

Even black and orange.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:03

There you go.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:04

So we will be putting our horror movie list on our wedding chalkboard.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:09


Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:10

And looks like we're gonna find out which movies gonna go on there first.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:13

The list of the dead.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:15

Okay, so do you want to go first or should I?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:18

Um, you can go first.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:21

Like ask you?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:22

Yeah ask me.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:23

Okay. Should we ask both questions on the card? There's two cards per two questions per card.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:28

Yeah, let's do that. I mean, we said one card right or one question. We said one card.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:32

We'll just do one card one card.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:33


Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:33

to keep it simple to separate them.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:35

Okay, okay.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:36

Okay, Kate Bosworth and Thomas Jane star in this 2016 supernatural film in which their son's nightmares become reality.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:46

Kate Bosworth and who's the other one?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 4:48

Thomas Jane.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 4:49

Thomas Jane is that the guy from Punisher? I think that's the guy from Punisher, Thomas Jane and Kate Bosworth. Can I get a hint?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:03


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:04

Okay. I'm gonna say, Oh, hold on. I'm gonna say The Mist.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:15


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:17

What is it?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:18

'Before I Wake' will be the first movie on our horror movie list.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:23

Before I Wake?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:24


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:24

Never even heard of that movie. To be fair, I haven't really, we haven't really seen tons and tons of horror films. And we'll kind of get into that in this episode. Why. But you know, we might be a little bit terrible at these at the beginning, but we're gonna start like,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:41

For sure.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:42

For sure. Getting awesome at these.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:43

And we're going to graduate to the hard, Trivial Pursuit.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:46

Oh, yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:46

Is it trivia or trivial?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:47

Trivial Pursuit.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:48

Trivial Pursuit.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:50

Do you want me to go next?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:51


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:51


Ghost Hostess Mandy 5:52

And then we'll do the other half.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 5:55

Oh, I would have gotten this one. Here we go. Vinvent Price starred in this 1959 ghostly classic and invited five people to survive the night. What's the name of the movie?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:09


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:10

No, I'll give you I'll give you one more guess. But they did remake it. Like in I want to say the early O's or the late 90's they invited five people to stay at this place.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:27

I don't know.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:29

The movie is House on Haunted Hill.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:32

I haven't seen it.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:34

It's a good I've seen both of them and it's pretty good.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:36

Okay, writing it down. Write that bad boy down. Quick disclaimer. I am a very busy ghoulish girl. I am going to school and working full time so we're probably not going to get through this list quickly, but we will make it a point to go through it in order as time permits.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:56

Okay, sounds good.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 6:57

Your turn.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:58


Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:00

What items is the killer famous for wearing in the 1976? film? Alice Sweet Alice.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:08

Alice Sweet Alice. Dang I've never seen that movie and even heard of it. Geez, we're really bad at this. Alice Sweet Alice. The killer wars something that's what you're asking me?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:26

Yes. What items is the killer famous-

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:30

Hmm. I'm just gonna

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:32

For wearing?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:34

I'm gonna guess. I don't know, a jacket or raincoat or something.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:39

You're close.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:40


Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:41


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:42

Well, that's all I got.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:43

Okay, so it's a yellow raincoat and translucent mask.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:47

Oh, you know what? I think that's, um, remember, there was like a button from our kneehigh box or a sticker and I couldn't figure out what it was. I think that's what it's from.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:59


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 8:01

Yeah, okay, that's cool. The only reason why I guessed raincoat is because we recently finished watching I Know What You Did Last Summer and that's all i could think of.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:10

Oh man, I hope I get this one right because we're already three movies in.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 8:14

Okay, here we go. Let's see. What big cat does Malcolm McDowell's character turn into after meeting with a human woman in the 1982 film Cat People?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:30

Oh geez. Let's use context clues. Repeat the question.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 8:34

What big cat does Malcom McDowell's character turn into after meeting with a human woman in the 1982 film cat people? Like what big cat? Did he make love to? Oh, I- turn into after meeting with me. Not not beasteality what what animal did he turn into it's big cat.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:59

A lion.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:01

One more guess.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:02

A tiger?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:02

No, a black panther.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:04

Oh geez.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:05

Wakanda forever.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:06

Oh, what movie was this? Cat people?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:08

Cat people, yes.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:10

All right, we just added four movies to our horror movie list.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:15

It's gonna be great. We need to be watching these anyway.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:17

Yeah, we're gonna learn a lot.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:19

That was pretty cool. I like that. I think that's gonna, we're gonna end up like watching like tons and tons of movies.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:24

For sure. Okay, now we're moving into how are you keeping Halloween alive this week?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:32

Okay, do you want me to go? Where do you want to go? How are you keeping Halloween alive this week?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:38

Okay, so I feel like we're gonna have the same answers this week.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:43

Well, maybe not. Go ahead.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:46

Okay. So I'm keeping Halloween alive by it's not I think actually, I'm sorry. So over the past week, we actually did a lot we watched or I should I watched was really for the first time The Swamp Thing and Return of the Swamp Thing or Return of the Living Swamp Thing?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:08

I think it's Swamp Thing Returns or something like that.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:10

Yeah, something like that.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:12

Swamp Thing Part Two. Is what we're gonna call it Swamp Thing Part Two.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:14

Yes. We had a mini marathon. And then we continued it with I Know What You Did Last Summer.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:21


Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:22

And I wanted to keep going, but we run out of time. And I've been completely obsessed with the coffee bar you finally finished for me?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:33

That's right. Yeah. Yeah, the coffee bar I made for you a while ago, but recently you wanted me to make it spookier. So we added some new mugs to the coffee bar to make it spookier. And then we painted it our wedding colors. It's like this flat lavender color that we used to kind of paint our centerpieces. So we kind of wanted to add a little bit of our wedding to the coffee bar.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:03

Yeah, I wanted something spooky for the color like a pop of color.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:07


Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:08

And I kept kind of like we couldn't figure out what color to do I didn't want it to be black because a lot of the mugs were black right the mugs to pop on it and we I've had the mason jar centerpiece from my wedding there for a while and I was like, let's make it special. And make it the exact color from our wedding. So-

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:25

yeah, cuz we got white walls and the lavender kind of like pops with everything else. We might even paint the coffee bar itself make it black. Since I'm painting everything black.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:35

You are, you're crazy. Um, another thing too, though, is for the longest time I was trying to make my mugs look cohesive somehow or like look like they go but now with all this Halloween stuff we got going on.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:49

We've got to replace all the mugs with something more Halloweenish.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:52

No, I just think adding a few pieces is making it all come together. So that's pretty exciting. Okay, how are you keeping the spook alive?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:01

Well, this past weekend. I want to I'll make this short. But I recently started to get back into comic books. And I'm going to start reading this one from DC about this evil Joker/ Batman hybrid. Oh, he's taking over to the different universes. I think that's what's happening. But we were when we were out to go pick up the first issue of the second version of it. We ended up going to what's it called? My Oh, my home what's called home

Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:38

At Home.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:39

At Home. There we go. Went to At Home to-

Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:41

With our masks.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:42

With our masks

Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:43

And we didn't close to anyone.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:45

Yeah, there wasn't a lot of people out there. And we just kind of we were looking for little bits and pieces for the apartment to paint black. And we actually stumbled upon some Halloween decorations at At Home. They're really cool. So we grabbed a couple of things. And,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:04

and we adopted another dog. Sorry.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:06

And we adopted another dog. His name is what's his name?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:10


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:11

Zero from the movie, The Nightmare Before Christmas. So we found this decoration of Zero and I hung them up next to Mandy's coffee bar. So we just floating around just hanging out Mickey and all these different little mugs, so you'll see him on Instagram. He's just gonna be there. Chillin with us chillin with other dogs.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:33


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:33

But that's how I'm keeping Halloween alive. Just kind of sprucing up the apartment making it look more spooky.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:40

Which is actually a really good segue into our real topic. We kept you guys guessing on what's what's it called? At the tip?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:50


Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:51

Yeah. On the edge of your seat, that's the word. Yeah, we for probably the whole week. We didn't know what we really wanted to talk about this episode, right, we knew we really, really enjoyed our last session,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:07


Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:07

We really liked having a conversation with each other and learning about each other. And something we realized is that for a lot of people, it's like we're coming out of nowhere into this lifestyle.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:22


Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:22

for us, too. And so I think, did you want to say something?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:27

No, I agree. It kind of came out of left field. It's always kind of been there at the surface kind of bubbling for me and Mandy, and yeah, it's just, it's just exciting to kind of learn these new things about Mandy and about me. And it's just really fun. I'm just having a blast, in quarantine at home just like exploring these new things. It's just great.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:50

Yeah, so we, we honestly kind of feel like we just met each other again like that relationship feeling because As it turns out, we were hiding a lot of not things like not in a bad relationship way. But like, I think both of us kind of locked up certain parts of ourselves. That kind of led to a lot of miscommunication or it wasn't necessarily miscommunication, but we definitely felt like both of us were holding back.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:24


Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:24

We loved certain things.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:25

Yeah, exactly.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:26

Because of a lack of sharing those things with each other.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:30

Mm hmm.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:30

And so we kind of want to share our history of our love for Halloween/horror/spooky things.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:39


Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:39

But we want to take it back, like all the way to our childhood and kind of take it through our adolescence and our adulthood to where we met.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:50


Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:51

And then kind of share how all of this came to be.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:55

How it all collided together.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:57

Yes. And so I think we kind of talked about or I'm can't remember if I mentioned that we kind of want to spend the rest of this season developing our story with you guys and sharing who we are our expertise, not necessarily our expertise, but like where we're coming from moving forward from here and we want you guys to get to know us because you're going to be our spooky little Ghoulster Community. So we feel it's only fair to kind of explain to you guys why we're just like, appearing out of nowhere like a ghost.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:30

Oh, spooky.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:32

Okay, so, who should start?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:35

Do you have a coin? We can flip a coin?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:38

We need a spooky coin. Flip a knife.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:43

We can flip a dog and we have two dogs. Yeah, I can go if you want. Want me to go. It's up to you.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:49

Okay, let's take it by childhood. Go.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:52

Childhood. I think so, Halloween, and I guess spooky stuff has always kind of been there for me. My dad loves Halloween. I think he loves it more than any other holiday. And I kind of picked up on that. On top of that he was always bringing movies home. And we would always go to our local video store and pick like all these VHS tapes and stuff. And it was always exciting because like, he didn't have Netflix, you couldn't just jump on there and like scroll forever and stuff. You just had to go over there. And make sure you kind of go through everything. And a lot of things didn't change when you were at the the VHS store or the Blockbuster. So you had an opportunity to kind of like go through everything. So that was always there. In elementary school, middle school in high school, I would always try to dress up for Halloween.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:55

Mm Hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:56

Even in high school, I would always try to dress up for Halloween because it was just fun. And not everybody did it, especially in high school, but I didn't care like I love dressing up and freaking out people. So that's always been there. And I think I get a lot of that from my dad because he's always he was always and he still does dresses up for Halloween and goes to work.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 18:04

That's awesome.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 18:05

Maybe I have a picture of him recently. I think he came home and he just had like this wig on. It's like really? Weird. You've seen that picture

Ghost Hostess Mandy 18:13

The tall one?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 18:14

Yeah. I don't know what he was. But yeah, he had just come back from work. And he had a wig on. He looked hilarious. But yeah, I mean, giving out candy too. I love doing that too. Just like to see other people's costumes and making like, kids happy. You know, it's just been a big part of my life, but it's never been as big as it is right now. Because of you, because how much you love Halloween? I know. I know you love Halloween more than I do. But I mean, I I'm pretty sure I'm like, second. My whole family right behind you.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 18:53

Do you think would you say that you were in love with Halloween yet as a kid

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:00

Yeah, I've always been in love with Halloween.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:02

Like, did you feel this? Like you clearly loved it more than any other day of the year?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:09

Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, like it'd be months out and I'd, and I'd start getting my costume ready for Halloween. I think the only other holiday that you do that for us maybe Christmas, but I usually like just get my gifts like a couple of days before or a week before but for Halloween, you're like working on your stuff like once in advance,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:28


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:28

Because you want to be ready and you want to be like badass when you show up to wherever you're going to be showing up to. But yeah, I don't know at some when Halloween rolls around and you open up like a like a fresh thing of latex. Like, wounds and stuff. It's It smells so magical even like the grease paint used to like paint your face like that. I love that smell just Halloween is just awesome. Like the weather's perfect, you get candy, you get to dress up as the spooky character that you've always wanted to, or whatever character doesn't have to be spooky, but any character, and you just get to be somebody else for a while and just kind of leave all the crap that you've been dealing with, like through the week or the day, and just have fun and just escape for a little bit,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:18

which is what this has become for us.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:20

Yeah, pretty, pretty much and I'm happy that we're trying to make that like a daily thing. Like, just if we can, you know, bring a little bit of escapism, and joy to somebody that's having a bad day and that maybe this makes them feel better. That's gonna make me feel better. And you know, that's something that I want to do. I want to share these stories with everybody so they can like, feel the way I feel about Halloween and just love you know,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:47

Definitely. Lurve.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:49


Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:50

Okay, so since I knew we were going to talk about this, I've kind of been thinking about it pretty intensely,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:59

Uh huh.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:59

But I can't, for the life of me tell you like where my love for Halloween started. And I think I've mentioned this in a previous episode, but I mean, my earliest memories of Halloween are just like my mom putting my costumes together?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:18


Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:18

And there's this like, iconic costume in my family that she dressed me up as this little witch. And she actually made that costume for me.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:31

My mom did the same thing. She made a couple of my costumes. I remember that. I can't believe I didn't even mention that. But yeah,

Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:38

yeah, so she made my costume. I don't to be completely honest. I don't remember if she made any others but that one like always sticks out to me.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:46

Mm hmm.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:46

And then after that, as I kind of like went into elementary school, my brother started helping me put my costumes together. Oh, like he would do my makeup. I'd wake up really early before school and he would do my makeup before you would do my make up for Halloween,

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:01

He didn't peel your face off?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:02

No. He I actually dressed up as Queen Amidala one year. And he made all that like the white with the red lips and the dots.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:12

I remember that yeah, I rememeber that picture.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:13

It was really cool. And then after that, I don't really know like I'm trying to stick as far as childhood. I just remember that it was like my favorite time of the year because all of my family would come over. And we would decorate and my mom would always make the same thing. Spaghetti and hotdogs.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:31

Sounds delicious. Yeah. Was it spaghetti and meat sauce or meatballs?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:36

I think it was meatballs. I don't remember the details.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:40

This is rough for me because I'm trying to lose weight right now.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:43


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:44

All I can think of is spaghetti and meatballs. That's all I can do. So you're killing me right now.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:51

Um, and I don't know I just that time of year always felt extra magical to me like the kids on the streets. I've mentioned this before, too. It's like it was really like Hocus Pocus when in my childhood where the streets are filled with kids. And also something else that sticks out to me is Sabrina was still on the air.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:11

Uh huh.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:11

The original Sabrina The Teenage Witch.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:14

What's her name?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:14

Melissa Joan Heart.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:15

Melissa Joan Hart.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:16


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:17

With her millions and millions of Britney Spears cameos.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:22

It was one episode.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:23

but she's come on a couple of times in the show. No?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:25

No, you were just watching one episode that day.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:28

I'm pretty sure she's come out. No, no, yeah, you're right. Because Melissa Joan Hart came out one of her music videos.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:34

Yes, that's and a movie.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 23:36

And a movie apparently.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:37

No, wait. I don't know. That doesn't matter. We're not talking about Britney. We're talking about Sabrina. So I want to say Sabrina used to come out on Friday nights still so I would always look forward to it. And then Disney Channel also had like their Halloween specials. So they'd premiere Disney Channel Halloween movies on Friday nights. So it was just like my whole childhood is like when Disney Channel was at its prime. And Halloween was still cool and people would Trick or Treat and it hadn't turned into this weird like people have events and gatherings instead, for it. Okay, so that's kind of our foundation as kids, what was it like as you started getting a little older, like into your teens?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 24:19

My teens. I mean, I've always kind of been consistent with you know, dressing up. I think maybe towards high school, maybe towards the end of high school, I might've gone to a party or two for Halloween, but for the most part, I tried to at least Trick or Treat in my neighborhood. And sometimes we'd go with, like friends that had little siblings and stuff. So I help them and go take them Trick or Treating. So it was always there. Um, I guess my my costumes got a lot of a lot more gorier the older I got. So I would add a lot more bloody things. But I mean, I remember, my mom made me a costume when I was in elementary school and it was a Batman costume. I think my mom still has it. And if I can find it, I'll take a picture of it. But after that, like I started making my own costumes and then just making them gorier especially when I started discovering slasher films.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 25:30

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 25:31

And I just liked those characters and I wanted to kind of bring that terror to everybody at school and just sit there all creepy, or just walk behind people and freak them out. It was just always fun getting a rise out of people.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 25:45

That's awesome. And so that's also when you started getting into slasher movies then is what you said.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 25:50

Yeah, I think I saw a couple when I was a kid, but I didn't really understand what was going on. I think my dad or or wasn't my dad. There's more of my cousin's they will watch them and stuff, but I wasn't really interested. And maybe it wasn't until high school or between middle school and high school. I started watching slasher movies and I really liked the Friday The 13th Series. And of course, Freddy was there too. And it always freaked me out because it just him coming into your dreams and just terrorizing you. It's just scary. Michael Myers not too much. He was scary and cool, but I don't know. It just didn't really interest me that much. I do like Halloween. I actually like I think it's Halloween 3 Season of the Witch. I really like that one. But that has nothing to do with Michael Myers.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 26:45

And I don't think I've seen that one.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 26:46

It's pretty good. It's cool. I think what they were originally wanted to do is kind of like make Halloween about different stories.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 26:52

Mm hmm.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 26:52

It's never went that way. But I like that one. But yeah, slasher movies have always been my thing. I don't think I can't think of any like other spooky things that I watched. Ghostbusters of course, you know Hello, Ghostbusters. Oh, I was a Ghostbuster when I was a kid for sure.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 27:10

Oh, jeez.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 27:11

That was awesome. But yeah, that's pretty much it. Halloween has always been a constant in my life. I always celebrated somehow every year no matter what.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 27:20

Okay. Yeah, for me, I think I'll probably talk a lot more in this segment for me. I think my teenagers really developed my love for Halloween and just my alternative side in general. I I don't really know what happened but I think somewhere like around middle school, I just covered like Linkin Park.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 27:43

Oh yeah, Linkin Park.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 27:45

That was just kind of like, not like in a bad gateway drug. But like, Linkin Park was kind of like the gateway to me discovering like, alternative music and emo music. And then I became completely obsessed with Evanescence. And then from there, it just kind of naturally evolved to me like loving the clothing and the jewelry and the makeup like I loved wearing eyeliner and the dark colors. And I even attempted to dye my hair black, but I'm freaking crazy and my hair doesn't take color. Like I've met with like professional hairstylist and they've been amazed to that my hair just doesn't take color. And so my mom used to tell me, well, you can try it, but if you dye your hair black, it's never gonna go back to the color. It was literally washed off in two weeks. I think my hair was like virgin hair. So I kind of gave up on that. But something that really stuck out to me was through high school. A lot of like, older adults didn't approve of the way I was dressing.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:48

Of your alternative lifestyle?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:50


Master of Scaremonies Rudy 28:51

Your alter ego.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 28:53

I remember one time I used to wear like red eyeliner, and one time there was like a substitute for my AP Science class. I think it was like a biology class. I don't remember. But he stopped me at the door and he was like, Are you high right now? And I was like, What?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 29:11

High on Halloween.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 29:12

I'm like, no. And then he's like, Why are your eyes red? And I'm like, it's eyeliner. Like, what is your deal? Like, I'm a freaking nerd in an AP class. Like, why would I be getting high on lunch?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 29:23

Are you on the devil's lettuce right now, young lady?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 29:28

So that was just like, super. That was just an example of ways I was constantly treated. I remember one time my dad completely lost his stuff over me wearing these like, long dangly skulls for earrings.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 29:44


Ghost Hostess Mandy 29:45

And so I didn't care though. I was in that like, teenage phase where I didn't care.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 29:50

Uh huh.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 29:50

And something that really stuck out to me recently is we were browsing for like t shirts online and I saw one that that had like, this little witch girl and she goes up in like every phase she becomes like a different like goth female.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 30:04

Oh, yeah yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 30:05

Says it's not just a phase and that just kind of also clicked for this episode is that I know my mom always used to defend me. Bless her. She always supports my goals and dreams. But I remember she used to tell my dad like it's just a phase she's gonna naturally like phase out of it, and she'll go back to a normal person. Sorry, mom. But I think that's just something that I've discovered over the last year kind of is that it's not just a phase where a lot of people and I feel like our community is very what's the word like stereotyped?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 30:46

Yeah, stereotype for sure.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 30:47

Um, like you have to have a lot of courage to like, live it and breathe it and be who you want to be. And as I got older, I think I kind of stopped having having that like brave feeling of I don't care what anyone thinks.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:03


Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:03

Because I was like, through middle school and high school like I would sing at all, every show I could in school and I didn't care if kids were watching, I would dance like, I was always myself and I didn't care. Like I didn't give two cents what anybody thought of me. And as I got older, I don't know why or how that changed. But I started carrying like, Oh, I don't want them to stay like, Well, why is she dressing like that she's too old to be dressed like that. Or it's not appropriate for someone who has her kind of career to be dressed that way or anything. And so those pieces just all kind of went away, but through the years. It always sticks out to me that like my mom always supported it, like our family picture that we took for Christmas.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:52

Yeah, I remember.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:53

We were wearing like the black and red plaid.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 31:56

Oh yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 31:58

I did my like dark mane up, and I wear a black cross. That black cross, my mom gave it to me.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:05

That's cool.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:05

When I was in that 'phase'. And so I was, like really made me happy. And I sent her a picture and I was like, look who's back and she always knows, like, when I have those little moments of sending her a picture with my dark makeup. I think she understands like, it's always been a really big part of me, even though I don't live it and breathe it. And so I think you kind of met me past that phase.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:29

Yeah, that's true. Um, I've never, I guess. My parents were very accepting of my stuff, I guess. I mean, I was, I guess I was, 'skater' slash alternative kid. I was just a kid and I like to skateboard. I listened to punk music and, you know, alternative music and Boys to Men. Boys to Men was the jam back in the day but I mean, the only like argument I had was my mom hated baggy jeans. And those were all the rage back in back in the day. And all I wanted were some big old JNCO Jeans.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 32:30

And now you're the opposite.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 32:31

Now I'm the opposite. I'm like, Oh my god, this is so baggy. And I can't use these mostly because when I'm doing work, and I'm shooting, I can't have baggy jeans because I'm always running around and it gets caught on something and I just can't deal with that. But yeah, back in the day, I was alternative too. I think, my first tape first tape. My first taste of alternative music was either Smashing Pumpkins, or no, it was Green Day, actually, Green Day was like my first taste of alternative music, which was like punk or whatever. But yeah, it's always kind of been there and my parents are pretty cool with it. You know, they had to deal with my other two brothers too. And my mom had a daycare so she dealt with those kids, but they've always been accepting except for the JNCO Jeans, but for the most part, they were really cool with everything. My dad was cool that because he loves Halloween and I love Halloween, so whenever I wanted to dress up he's like, yeah, let's do it.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:09

That's awesome. Something I forgot to mention too. Is that another reason Halloween like really are this spooky life really grew on me through high school is because a lot of the classic remakes happened during that time.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:26

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:27

Like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:32

Yeah, that's correct. I think I was in college by then.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:36

Yeah, cuz your old.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 34:37

I'm an old geezer. I saw the originals. No, not really. Well, I did see the originals but now when they came out.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 34:44

Yeah. Which is something I'm looking forward to doing soon. But yeah, all of these things started to come out when I was in high school and surrounded by friends who were into the same interest. I'll never forget that. The very first time I saw A Nightmare Before Christmas was in a movie theater for their 3D special.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 35:03

Oh, that's awesome.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 35:04

Yeah, it was so cool. And I'm like always mad every year that they don't release it in 3D in theaters because it was so cool. There's a scene where Jack is like, and I Jack the Pumpkin King. He like gets close to you. And then later he like popped out like his head pops out. It was so cool. So that was just one of the, like many different things I experienced in high school. Another one was My Bloody Valentine came out.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 35:36

I did see that one in 3D. That was cool.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 35:38

Yeah. And so just like the, I guess the fusion of the music, I was listening to the movies that were coming out the influence of my friends. I just like really developed this love and passion for it. And I would even find myself watching like scary movies by myself. And I think that's probably when my mom was like you're a weirdo because I would like love watching like House of Wax. That scene where her lips are glued shut is like my biggest fear in life because I love talking obviously into just imagine having to like tear your mouth open.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:13

Did you have any friends that were into Halloween too? Or was just you?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:19

Well, I was lucky enough to have Oscar.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:21

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:22

So he played a big role in that too. It was like when we became friends. We bonded over The Killers originally. I think. I've never told you this story, but Oscar and I met on Xanga.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:35

No, you told me about this.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:36

About Xanga?

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 36:37

Yeah, you told me about this.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 36:38

Okay, yeah, so we met online and I think it was like, we liked talking to each other at first over The Killers. I heard remember. That's cool. Um, so Oscar and his family really love Halloween. Like they go all out too. So it just kind of like helped emphasize the time of year even more every time and he was like the only person who ever under did when I was like already planning my outfit, or my costume for the next year like in December? Um, so yeah, I just think my teenage years really played a very large influence in my love for spooky things.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:14

Did you guys ever do a couples costume?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 37:17

Yes. So I should say that Oscars was not my boyfriend. He was my bestie.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:22


Ghost Hostess Mandy 37:23

Um, but one time, every year I would be like, we should do this so that it could be cute. And he'd always be like, No, I'm gonna do this and then I'd be like, desperately trying to make it match somehow. So one time he was Edward Scissorhands, and I was a plant. I made myself into a tree or something.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:42

One of the ones where he cuts up?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 37:44

Yes, pretty much. I thought he would. I don't remember what happened but I wanted to be like poison ivy or something and he ended up being Edward Scissorhands. So I decided to just be one of his trees.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 37:55

That's cool. That's pretty that's a clever costume.

Ghost Hostess Mandy 37:57

I didn't come out very well. But um we were Batgirl and Robin once that was really cute and for that so I actually threw a Halloween costume when I was in high school

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 38:09

You threw a Halloween costume?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 38:10

Halloween Party, my bad.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 38:12

I was like you threw at who? For what reason?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 38:15

I'm excited over here, but I went super all out like the way we decorated our apartment that one year.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 38:21


Ghost Hostess Mandy 38:22

I did that to my mom's house like the entire house.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 38:25

You turn your mom's house into a haunted house?

Ghost Hostess Mandy 38:27

Pretty much like the entire entry level was completely like decorated, and I made these really cool invitations. I guess that's where my love for like graphic design started and I never even knew, but I printed them like on yellow paper.

Master of Scaremonies Rudy 38:43