Updated: Oct 23, 2020
Find out if Scoob! is worth its On-Demand price tag and get a glimpse of what is to come with Zack Snyder's Justice League in 2021.
Welcome foolish mortals to the podscast that keeps the spirit of Halloween alive all year through pop culture and nostalgia. And now your gost hostess with the mostest
Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:16
Zoinks! it's a Scoob! review. Hi guys, I'm your Ghost Hostess Mandy and with me is my other half and producer Rudy.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:24
Ghost Hostess Mandy 0:24
Okay, so before we do anything I have major breaking news. We just got word that the Zack Snyder Justice League will be released in 2021 on HBO Max. I'm not an expert on this. So I'm going to divert to Rudy on more information.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 0:42
So if you remember Justice League came out a couple of years ago and it came out with mixed reviews during production. Zack Snyder had a family death and he had to go deal with that. And in the intro, they brought in Joss Whedon, and he directed the first Avengers and a bunch of other Marvel movies. I think Warner Brothers ultimately wanted to go in that direction more lighthearted stuff like the Avengers to try to catch up with Marvel, but it kind of ended up ruining the movie. Since then Zack Snyder has been kind of teasing on the little things that he wanted to do in his original cut. So a lot of people been putting together these insane campaigns to get that movie put together and stuff so apparently, they they heard the fans which is insane, just crazy. It's the power of social media. And you know, they're they're gonna they're gonna make it I don't know much what's gonna happen, but I know that I've heard or I've read that they're gonna sync between $20 or $30 million to complete it
Ghost Hostess Mandy 1:37
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 1:38
So I don't know if that includes reshoots or anything but I know that they're going to like hire animators to complete all the visual effects and stuff so it's going to be crazy because like it brings up like what do you do with like the the cannon like where's it gonna go? Does it fix the things that were kind of broken with The Justice League isn't going to change what happens with Wonder Woman? Is it going to change Harley Quinn and Like what is
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:00
Yeah pretty crazy
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:02
it's insane like this has never been done before.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:05
And it's like God take number two
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:09
there's also there's also talk that the movie is going to be like three hours, three to four hours long.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:15
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:16
Which is insane. And they're talking about making it into like almost like a miniseries.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:19
Yeah, I heard about that.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:21
So it'll be like four episodes. But you know, there was like things about Cyborg that they never touched
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:28
was Zack Snyder involved with the original Suicide Squad at all?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 2:31
I have seen his name in the credits him and his wife are producers on the Suicide Squad and most of the DC properties but I don't know how involved they are.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 2:41
Okay, cuz I remember that. I think I'm confusing Justice League with Suicide Squad, but I remember when Suicide Squad came out, they like ended up adding in all of these funny scenes because they didn't want it to be so heavy. So I was thinking that that was Justice League. But either way, I'm pretty excited to see what happens because I would have liked to explore something that was less corny, I guess. More heavy like The Dark Knight or something.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:06
Yeah, it was kind of like the kill Superman and and then he's like, Oh, I'm alive. It's kind of like Oh, why did you kill him off and we're just gonna like have him come back and be normal it was just really yeah
Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:16
they should have definitely let that drag out until the next
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 3:19
year because we will movie a lot of people were looking for the black suited Superman because they drew a lot of inspiration from the Death of Superman when he fought Doomsday and at some point he comes back in a black suit Zack Snyder I think at some point in the movie is cut like he was supposed to be evil or something. They touched on it in like the cut that did come out but it wasn't like drawn out. Hopefully we get to see Superman in the black suit. That's what I'm looking for.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 3:47
Cool. All right, well, that was a quick little dive into what we might be getting into next year in 2021. Keep the Google mates alive until then. So getting back to what we had scheduled. For today. So as I mentioned in our first episode, we weren't really sure which direction we were going to take this in. We just wanted to create something that embodies the spooky spirit of Halloween year round. You know, not necessarily ghost stories or horror, but just the all around feeling you get when you like first see Halloween decorations popping up in store aisles or you get the whiff of that first pumpkin spice latte at Starbucks. Along with that, we also want to feature nostalgic things and nerdy pop culture, like Justice League. So I thought Scoob! would be the perfect thing to start out with, especially because something we haven't touched on much is our little monsters. We have two amazing rescue pups. So of course, as soon as we saw the first trailer for Scoob! my heart instantly melted. If you want to hear more about our little monsters, let us know on Instagram @theghoulmates because I have got stories so it's a total bummer that this movie didn't get its theatrical release. But on the other hand, I'm also really happy because it means we got to see the movie with our two pups on the couch. The movie is available to rent on almost all streaming platforms for $20. Or you can purchase the digital version for $25. Although you'd probably spend more going to the theater this could be a steep price for those during the pandemic. So we're hoping this review can help you determine if it's worth the rental fee. So before we get started, I wanted to set the tone and expectations for today's review. I promise we are going to keep this podcast free of any major spoilers, but there will be some mention of a few things that pop up in the movie, nothing major from the story that will be revealed, or should I say, unmasked? In all seriousness, this is not going to be your typical film critic review. Something I told Rudy when we started this podcast is I don't want to try to be anything we're not we're not videogame experts or horror experts, or any type of expert really, but the reality is we're just too ghoulish nerds always hunting down the next thing to have fun with. So before we kick off the review, I thought we should share our knowledge and experience Scooby Doo before we dive in, so my memory is terrible. I can watch something and forget about it. Two weeks later, you will quickly learn I will probably even forget certain details of Scoob! a week from now. I hate to say this, but I don't have much experience with Scooby Doo. I remember watching the cartoon when I was younger, I always loved like the spooky theme of it. But I can't say I remember details. I was never really big into Cartoon Network. Like, I hear people talk about the cartoons that were on there. And I'm just like, I don't know, I was just kind of always hooked on Disney Channel like a junkie. I also remember watching the live action movies and they came out, but again, my memory defeats me. So what you can expect from me is just an initial reaction from a non film expert who loves dogs, and all spooky things. I can already tell you Rudy has much more of a background on this, so I'll let him share his experience with you.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 6:53
So my experience with Scooby Doo is I know that it's part of the Hanna-Barbera universe. It's been around for a good While maybe since the 70s I'm not 100% sure. I grew up watching Scooby Doo. It was always on Cartoon Network. I'm pretty sure other like local stations. I did like Scooby Doo, The Flintstones.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:13
Oh yeah, I did watch a lot of the Flintstones.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:16
There was a racing show. I think it was called Crazy Races or something like that but it had like these Hanna-Barbera characters. That was part of it. And I'm pretty sure I think Jonny Quest was part of it. The Jetsons were part of it like they had this huge like cartoon universe. So the other thing I remember was like the live action movies, I think, Freddie Prinze Jr. was in one with one of those girls from the 90s I don't even remember
Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:41
Sarah Michelle Gellar.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:42
Sarah Michelle Gellar. Actually, oh, yeah. What's her name was in it too the girl from Freaks and Geeks.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:50
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:51
Linda Cardellini. Was she was Velma Oh my god.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 7:53
I mean, Linda Cardellini.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 7:55
Yes, it was awesome. She She did a great job. She was a perfect Velma, I think my favorite Hanna-Barbera cartoon was The Flintstones, though, but I do know like most of those cartoons.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:07
Cool. So what kind of review can we expect to hear from you today?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 8:12
I would say I'm gonna probably touch on some of the historical elements of the movie, because there's a lot of things that pop up that kind of hint at a larger universe, which I hope that they explore. So those things and then maybe a couple of technical things. I like the stuff that they did in the movie that were very subtle, but like really cool.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 8:36
So before we move on to the film itself, I wanted to talk about how amazing the promotions were for this movie. I remember I saw the original trailer and I was like instant feelers with the whole rescue and pup part of the story. But then I remember seeing the promo they made at AMC, and it was like so awesome, because it was Shaggy and Scooby eating popcorn, my favorite thing ever. I was just like, all around. excited to see something nostalgic and Halloween-esque coming back and the whole like puppy part of it just totally swept me off my feet. What vibe were you feeling when you saw the trailer?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:09
When I saw the trailer, it kind of came out of left field, I didn't really know that they were making a Scoob! movie. So it was like, Oh, this is cool. I liked it. It wasn't live action. But it also wasn't like a hand drawn animation. So they kind of updated it kind of was in the middle. And some of the jokes that they had during like the trailer were pretty funny. And then just Scoob! just looked super cute. They did a good job when like, what they did with him and it reminded me of my dogs. And it got me gave me the feels to them like Oh, I wish I could watch this with my dogs and at the time we were going to see it in the theater, but you know, it ended up that we were able to see it with them. So yeah, I was super excited
Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:45
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 9:47
Ghost Hostess Mandy 9:48
here we go. My initial reaction is that I definitely thought the movie was gonna focus more on Shaggy and Scoob's origin story specifically versus the whole gang getting together. But I don't know, like, they kind of touched on it, but it kind of felt like they fast forwarded through it so that they could get to introducing the gang. Which is cool because you got to understand that origin story, but I just felt like it was marketed like it was gonna be specifically Scoob and Shaggy.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 10:16
Yeah, I get that too. When I first saw the trailer, I thought, you know, it was going to be just like an origin story with Scooby and Shaggy. And then at the end of like, their adventure, you know, they encounter the rest of the team. And then they would go on to other episodes or whatever, but yeah, I thought it was just going to be them too for like the whole movie, but it was just a regular Scooby Doo movie and I think they should have just called it Scooby Doo, which would have been fine. Didn't have a problem with it, but I just imagined it like happening a different way.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 10:49
Yeah, I agreed. But something that was fun for us is we didn't really do like a lot of research. Before we saw the movie. We just like saw the promos were excited. And like the minute it came out on Movies Anywhere we were like, purchase it and watch it at midnight. So something fun for us was like, as soon as the movie started, we were like, whose voice is that? We know whose voice that is?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:12
Yeah, we, when it comes to animations, we're always trying to figure out like who the voices are. And I think that's kind of like what we do a lot of actually like with The Masked Singer. We love that show because we're always trying to figure out who is that voice and usually, I'm right and your extremely wrong.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:32
I got two right this one season this time, so
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:34
we kind of felt that way with Scooby Doo trying is like who like who is that? Like, that? Sounds really familiar. Like I think the person I was, um, what's the name Zac.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:43
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 11:44
Zac Efron. I was like, Oh, that's Zac Efron! I think they they cast it fairly well.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 11:48
I think the cool thing too about us is that again, there's that small generation gap between us. So usually like if I know something you don't but if you know something, I don't know it, especially on Masked Singer too
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:00
Oh yeah, I'm always on the Masked Singer. I'm always getting like the older contestants
Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:05
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:05
And I usually get the young ones too, because I'm just good at everything.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:09
No you don't hashtag lies. But one of my favorite changes in the movie was that Velma's a Latina like me. And she's voiced by Jane The Virgin. I mean, Gina Rodriguez. I kid um, all jokes aside, it was awesome to see this change without giving too many spoilers. Do you want to share what you noticed about the characters in the movie?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:30
When we first found out that Velma was a Latina, it was done very subtly. And it was really good.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:37
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:38
Like I was like, oh, like I didn't think of that. When when I was seeing her character play out like her first couple of lines.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 12:46
Especially Well, I don't want to get too into it. But her transition from a kid to an adult. I think it was more obvious as an adult.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 12:53
Yeah, without that first line at the beginning of the movie, you wouldn't have known until like you looked her up on IMDB, like who is the voice of Velma? And then you would have realized oh, it's a it's Jane The Virgin?
Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:06
Yeah, I think definitely. Gina, Gina Rodriguez playing this role
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:12
Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:13
Helped. I think it helped establish that she's a Latina because people hear her voice and they're like that Jane The Virgin. So you instantly picture like a badass Latina.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:24
Yeah, I think her cast was really different and interesting. And it was just it was
Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:30
very subtle, subtle enough to where it wasn't a huge statement, but it still made me as a Latina go like, Oh, yeah, like me.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:39
The Daphne character I really didn't know much about her. Who was it? I think she came on and
Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:45
it's Amanda Seyfried. She's in Mamma Mia.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 13:48
That's right. That's right.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 13:49
Um, but other than that, I can't really draw like a personal connection from the actress to the character, I guess.
To be honest, Daphne kind of didn't stick out to me in this.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:00
She did. And I think I think Zac Efron's character. He had a lot of great lines. He was a great, Fred.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:07
And it made me want a live action with him as Fred
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:10
Yeah, he was just he and he didn't like say a lot. But the lines he had were pretty hilarious. I think casting Will Forte, as Shaggy was amazing.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:10
See, and I didn't know that one!
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:15
And I was like, listening to him as like, Who is this and I had to look it up. I was like, Oh my god, it's Will Forte! It's just great casting. He's just hilarious. I think the the Scooby character was I think it was the original guy that did the voice, but I'm not 100% Sure. Because he's not really it wasn't Childish Gambino or somebody.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 14:40
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 14:42
But then I think Mark Wahlberg was the Falcon. Oh, yeah. Which was pretty hilarious. I think, oh, Tracy Morgan, was the character he was one of the cavemen characters. You remember that? He was pretty funny. But yeah, I mean, the I think the cast was pretty well put together.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:01
Yeah, especially because it was awesome that you could like recognize them. And the people cast also kind of fit the character they were playing kind of added to it.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:10
Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:11
But as we were watching the movie, I noticed that you also noticed a few other things about the characters in the movie,
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:18
Right. Yeah. So a lot of the characters that were in the movie are not necessarily part of the Scooby Doo cartoon, but they're part of the Hanna-Barbera Universe.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:30
So is Hanna-Barbera kinda like Archie Comics? It's like a brand that has these different cartoons in it?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:36
Yeah it's kind of like Marvel. They have you know, Spider Man will show up and fight with the X-Men, that type of thing.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:44
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:45
it was just like this. They're pulling from different properties. And I thought that was pretty cool.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 15:49
So do you think that that could mean there's something bigger happening here?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 15:54
I hope so. That's what I would do. Like I would love a Scooby Doo movie where they get in a time machine and they're what they're fighting some villain with The Jetsons, you know, pretty cool or they have to travel again through time and then they go in there with The Flintstones, you know, that would be really cool.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:12
For sure. So something else that you noticed and mentioned to me was the poster of The Hex Girls from the original series. And I have to admit that I was like pretty disappointed with the bit of spookiness and magic that was missing from the movie. I think the movie was definitely made with like a younger demographic in mind, but like when I watched it when I was younger, it was definitely like, darker, they had like suspenseful sounds, and it just had more of a like creepy feeling. It wasn't necessarily created for kids. It kind of seemed like it was more for like, maybe preteens and I kind of felt like a lot of that was watered down in this movie. Even the Blue Falcon?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 16:54
Blue Falcon, yeah.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 16:55
Even the Blue Falcon's character kinda was just like, I don't know, the whole movie just felt very like pop-y to me, you know?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:02
I think they're trying to low key establish the Hanna-Barbera Universe.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:06
Rather than like going to the real Scooby Doo Universe
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:07
Yeah, cuz like because I I'm thinking about it now and it wasn't really like a real Scooby Doo story where they're like at a haunted house or something and they're dealing with zombies or fake zombies or fake ghosts or whatever. They're kind of like dealing with this other villain that is not spooky.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:25
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:26
but you know, I think they're trying I think what they're trying to do is tie in a larger universe and then maybe later on, they'll have something where they'll have more traditional spooky movie but I think they want to like touch on different properties in the Hanna-Barbera Universe
Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:42
That makes sense. I hear you.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 17:44
Which is okay, like I thought it was a great way to do it. Like I didn't have any issues with the movie really.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 17:49
Yeah. And, um, well, I don't know. I guess I was being the spooky girl I am. I was kind of like it wasn't what I was expecting. And like another thing that I feel was a made I know now that you're saying it, it kind of makes sense. But another thing that I thought was a major missed opportunity was the soundtrack. I don't know again, I don't remember the live action movies too well, but I did a quick search on the Scooby Doo 2 Soundtrack and bands like Simple Plan and Bowling For Soup were featured. And I love Charlie Puth and Lennon Stella super talented, but I would have liked to have heard like a more alternative rock album like even something featuring like Panic At The Disco or Fall Out Boy would have liked sufficed for like this kind of movie and like still kind of resonated with younger kids. I mean, Panic At The Disco did Frozen. Like, why didn't you do that with Scooby? So yeah, I don't know. I just felt that like the music fell short.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 18:45
I didn't really think about the music too much. You know, I don't know. I didn't really think of the music. I didn't I didn't really have an issue with it either. But yeah, I get what you're saying. I think that would have added another layer of depth to the to the movie. The only thing I can think of is maybe they use like an evanescent song. Ironically, like one of the characters is a vampire or something because
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:07
Theres nothing wrong with Evanescence.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:08
Okay. It's I think it's just vampire music for vampires. But I think something like that would be would have been funny. For the most part I did. I wasn't really paying attention to that. I was like, enjoying the easter eggs and like the story play out.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:21
Yeah. And and that's where I think like, it's, this is a solid review, I think for like the majority of people because we have like two sets, like one person who's familiar with all of them nostalgic easter eggs, like you said, and then someone who's seen it from a different perspective,
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:35
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:36
I just love Halloween and dogs. And here's what I expected from it.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:39
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:39
I also think they kind of went in the wrong direction. Because like, a lot of people watching it are people like you and I that are like, Oh my god, it's Scooby Doo from when we were kids. Like it's an nostalgic thing. Right?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:51
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:51
So going into it. It's kind of like this isn't what I was expecting from the cartoon I used to watch
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 19:57
Ghost Hostess Mandy 19:58
but it sounds like it helped for you in a nostalgic way that it brought back multiple characters you weren't
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:03
Yeah, it brought back a lot of memories for like a lot of things.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 20:07
Okay, so as we wrap this up final takeaways is Scoob! worth the on demand price tag? For me I would say to anyone willing to rent it of course just pay the extra $5 to own it on the off chance that you absolutely love it and you want to see it again one day when you're bored or something. But my review is if you're expecting your traditional Scooby Doo or the ghoulish part of it, wait for the price to drop. However, if you're a total dog lover and think you'll connect to the storyline between Shaggy and Scooby's bond, then you'll definitely enjoy the movie i'll give the movie, three and a half Scooby Snacks out of five. I was definitely disappointed there wasn't more ghoulish fun added in and I would have liked a grungy-er soundtrack, but the rescue pup aspect save the movie for me personally. What about you?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 20:55
Um, I think that if you are a fan of just live action animation or a big fan of the Hanna-Barbera Universe, I think you should definitely get it. You're not gonna get any spooky stuff necessarily. But you're gonna like geek out on the little easter eggs that are dropped and you'd have to kind of really know the universe for a lot of the things that come out because when I was watching it, I saw a bunch of stuff was like, Oh my God, is that from this? I don't want to give away anything. But is this from this cartoon and that cartoon and and and when you see that it was it was just pretty awesome.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 21:31
I'd also add in for those of you being like, well, if I don't know those characters, is the movie gonna make sense to me? It will because I didn't know any of those characters myself.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 21:40
I think you're gonna expect it to be a traditional Scooby story. It's not but if you like it when properties explore outside of one property and dip into like the larger universe like it's cool. Like I love what they did. And I think it's worth it. Like we got it, and I'm gonna, you know, watch it again because I want to see what else I missed, you know?
Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:05
Agreed. I definitely think we need to see it again.
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:08
I think I'll give it four out of five Scooby Snacks
Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:11
Really that good?
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:12
I liked it.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:13
Well, if you guys want another review, maybe we'll do like an Instagram story if you want to see that
Master of Scaremonies Rudy 22:19
Maybe a spoiler filled review.
Ghost Hostess Mandy 22:21
Oh, that would be a good idea. If you guys are interested in that. Let us know on Instagram @theghoulmates let us know if you want us to do like a Instagram story version of that or if you just want a whole other podcast with all the details on it. Let us know. Alright guys, well there you have it our first ghoulish review of Scoob! we will be releasing a podcast every Thursday night at midnight to get you ready for a spectacular weekend. Join us next week as we touch our next nerdy topic video games. We will share our quarantine adventure of hunting down a Nintendo Switch during a global pandemic and I'll be sharing all about the struggles of finding one and how I ended up with spoiler alert two of them. I will also be sharing how my first Splatoon Splatfest goes this weekend and a bit more about my favorite video game of all time
Ghost Hostess Mandy 23:11
until then be sure to check us out on Instagram @theghoulmates and let us know of your listening. Do you have something you want to hear us talk about? Let us know we totally want to hear from you. Until then. Sending you ghouls and kisses. Bye!